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Reply from the Body Shop re JKR... just so dreadful...

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onlywomennotmen · 15/06/2020 17:34

Apparently men menstruate too...

^Hello, and thank you for getting in touch with us about our recent tweet to JK Rowling. We wanted to respond to everyone who has reached out to us to clarify our position on this issue.

We are longstanding supporters of the rights of women and girls on issues which affect them and believe it is important to keep having conversations around difficult topics such as this. Every person has the right to live their life free from the fear of violence, especially gender-based violence. The Body Shop has been an active campaigner on this issue since 1994.

The Body Shop’s position on menstruation in relation to trans and non-binary people is that we stand with ALL menstruators. People have periods – women, men and non-binary people. And plenty of women don’t. We value learning from everyone’s experience and we believe the conversation needs to go forwards, not backwards.

We disagree with JK Rowling’s view and wanted to demonstrate our support for trans and non-binary people. We understand why addressing the tweet to JK Rowling’s personal account has been interpreted as an attack on her as an individual, and as a domestic abuse survivor. That was absolutely not our intention. We didn’t get the tone right on this one and we do want to engage respectfully and constructively on these important issues.

We believe it is important to keep having conversations around difficult topics such as this, and doing so constructively. We recognise that our engagement with JK Rowling on this occasion wasn’t as constructive as we would like to be. We all need to educate ourselves, be inclusive and stand together so that we can end the shame and stigma around periods for all menstruators and stand up for what is right in our society.

We stand by our position on the rights of trans and non-binary people, and we will learn from this execution to ensure our communication is stronger and more constructive in the future.

We hope this helps you understand our position. We appreciated hearing yours.^

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 01:25

I want that book, so I can royally take the piss out of it, page by page. Having read a lot of " how to be a better trans ally, you inadequate cis woman" blogs/thoughtfarts I am expecting a doozy.

Thisismytimetoshine · 17/06/2020 01:23

@Ereshkigalangcleg

^Designed for and tested by women. Music to my ears^

Definitely. Will check them out.

Absolutely, but isn't it a bit surreal that we're so entranced by this, considering they're tampons?
Crazy what we have to be grateful for in these strange days.
Binglebong · 17/06/2020 01:06

@Ereshkigalangcleg

^Designed for and tested by women. Music to my ears^

Definitely. Will check them out.

I was going to joke about who other could have tested them than women. Then I remembered. Not the image I want before bed!
FantaOra · 17/06/2020 01:01

Jeez if you read that talking about pausing the campaign what the fuck where they going to do, send those cretinous bags with that vile book of pomo shite from that old man gender studies professer to more high profile women they don't approve of, suggesting they all calm down dear and have a fucking bath.

That's staggering. And now they are pleading with the poor mugs who have bought into the MLM scam to wait while they figure out how sort that fucking nuclear bath bomb out. YOU CAN NOT MAKE IT UP.

it really is imploding.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 00:31

I don’t think they’ve made it any better tbh - using JKR talking about being an abuse survivor to launch a new campaign aimed at “menstruators” is just abhorrent.

They can fuck off all the way to hell. And when they get there... you know how it goes from there.

Thisismytimetoshine · 17/06/2020 00:31

What does "we'll reach out (🤮) when we have a view on the next steps" mean? Shouldn't you make sure you have a fucking clue before you start lambasting someone on Twitter?

ItsLateHumpty · 17/06/2020 00:27

Hahahahaha Body Shop in free fall shocker!

twitter.com/SoniaPoulton/status/1272939425522225154

“Body Shop has had a meltdown over THAT tweet. A well-placed source tells me they feel 'backed into a corner' & uncertain how to respond. Just received a weak media response: 'we welcome hearing different points of view... ‘Hope shareholders feel the same way when profits drop.”

See attached for what they said to consultants re THAT tweet.

I don’t think they’ve made it any better tbh - using JKR talking about being an abuse survivor to launch a new campaign aimed at “menstruators” is just abhorrent.

Reply from the Body Shop re JKR... just so dreadful...
Reply from the Body Shop re JKR... just so dreadful...
Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 00:19

^Designed for and tested by women.
Music to my ears^

Definitely. Will check them out.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/06/2020 00:16

No problem Serenity Smile

BillBaileysBum · 16/06/2020 23:25

Fuxake. The White Musk Kool-Aid has been well and truly downed, hasn’t it.

That’s my custom gone.

Thisismytimetoshine · 16/06/2020 23:15

Haha, the bloody neck of them announcing they've a big smile waiting for us. They won't be needing one for me, the morons.

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 22:55

Ereshkigalangcleg - thank you!

RuffleCrow · 16/06/2020 22:31

Does anyone know how we can find out whether these companies are actually being funded by the trans lobby (or rather, the taxpayer via the trans lobby?) Are there laws about who can make request to view their accounts? Would you have to be a shareholder or board member, I wonder?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 16/06/2020 21:57

Didn’t someone come on here last year and had been at some strategy meeting where they said something along the lines of ‘going woke anyway, so just slip on a few ‘period matters’ type messages to throw those pesky women off the scent - then go for the jugular’ (cue photo of our ‘lil with message sharpied onto their hand).

"JM’s (James Morton of Scottish Trans Alliance) campaigning tips were to gain trust in the local community- and to approach moderate feminists, “correct misconceptions and forgive any ignorance they may have displayed”. They want to gain trust and make themselves likeable.

Apparently small acts like helping to campaign about period poverty or retweeting the local branch of Women’s Aid will make a difference and result in some reciprocation. They want to make it look like they care about Women's issues so they don’t appear threatening"

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3398737-We-re-Still-Here-Conference-8th-September-A-report-from-the-inside

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 21:48

The apology window had closed. Ta-ta.

CaraDune · 16/06/2020 21:46

@HermioneWeasley

They can fuck AAAAALL the way off with this non apology.
I just keep hearing Magdalen Burns in my head going "Fuck off you wanker(s)".
Binglebong · 16/06/2020 21:34

I know this is off subject but I don't get that Daye advert. What are the basketball about?!

SerenityNowwwww · 16/06/2020 21:30

Didn’t someone come on here last year and had been at some strategy meeting where they said something along the lines of ‘going woke anyway, so just slip on a few ‘period matters’ type messages to throw those pesky women off the scent - then go for the jugular’ (cue photo of our ‘lil with message sharpied onto their hand).

Anotherlovelybitofsquirrel · 16/06/2020 21:23

As if emailing me the same email I contacted them to complain about wasn't bad enough! Now they send us all this shit Angry

Reply from the Body Shop re JKR... just so dreadful...
FantaOra · 16/06/2020 20:28

I am slightly baffled at the period industry that has sprung up in recent years. I had a look at the one that is headed up bt the woman having a go at JKR and terfs, Bloody Good Period and it's fascinating. The job of this apparantly fantastic company is collect donations and hand them out, with a large staff spending a chunk of the donations and public money on themselves. They have a bloke in charge of education in schools on periods. There's loads of these parasite period organisations suckling off the charity tit....

I suppose gender studies grads have to go somewhere but this is just the same old capitalism with a charitable face.

HermioneWeasley · 16/06/2020 20:19

They can fuck AAAAALL the way off with this non apology.

slipperywhensparticus · 16/06/2020 20:16

ive emailed them, signed it with my name and in brackets "adult human female"

ive said im sorry for the reps most affected by all this i pointed out that trans men are not there primary demographic they also dont sell period products and they should have kept calm and sold body butter

i may have been slightly sarcastic

FishAreAcquaintancesNotFood · 16/06/2020 19:58

Hello, and thank you for getting in touch with us. We welcome hearing different points of view and your comments have been heard and noted by us. From all of us at The Body Shop”

Same here. Not quite an apology is it. Hmm

"Your view has been noted menstruator but I'd quite like it if I can keep your custom as it turns out teenagers can't afford our products" Sad

ChurchOfWokeApostate · 16/06/2020 19:51

Designed for and tested by women.
Music to my ears

ChurchOfWokeApostate · 16/06/2020 19:50

I saw this as I was browsing instagram the other day

Reply from the Body Shop re JKR... just so dreadful...
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