Reply from the Body Shop re JKR... just so dreadful...

If anyone gets through on the chat you should ask how many of the men’s toilet facilities in their head office & stores have sanitary disposal bins in them, after all if they really believe men have periods it would be remiss of them not to provide a hygienic way of disposing of their san pro.

Lordy the chat wait time is long today. I wonder why. I see they have pinned a tweet about DV. The comments arent going as I think they may have planned.

To the Body Shit - a haiku

Today I bid a
final adieu to the shop
I no longer love

(draft one was sweary, and some of the words had more than 5 syllables)

I just asked my DH if he has periods.

He said “No”.

I think I've inspired myself to watch it again

Anybody have any more news about what's happening in The Body Shop HQ? I wonder if their consultants have received any more comms from head office?

It's available for free on Channel 4 on demand for another 23 days.

It's on Curzon home cinema if you can get that app on your TV. For 3.99 for the movie.

I think Channel 4 sometimes still list stuff they no longer have a license to show.

The Square is free on Channel 4 on demand at the moment.
www.channel4.com/programmes/the-square/
We've just spent about an hour trying to get it to play on our Sony Bravia tv... but have been unsuccessful!

The Square no longer seems to be on Netflix. You got me all excited about it too!

Excellent response, finnmcool.

Fantastic response, @finnmcool

Brilliant finncool!

My not very articulate response to those twats.

Thank you for your copy and paste response that didn't even bother to include my name, a fabulous way to show your dismissal of natal women.

Judging from the first response I received from your company, natal women's concerns have been dismissed, minimised and vilified.

The Body Shop has shown exactly how little they think of natal women in an incredibly misogynistic manner.

The fact that you have doubled down on the JK Rowling issue after you joined in with the abusive pile on and have had nothing to say about the rape threats, death threats and repeated invitation to choke on/suck lady dick, shows you have no issue with violence against women. Your silence makes you complicit in that abuse.

I'm interested that you have a shaving section for men, men's products, but no mention of women on your website. You're happy to use the the word man, but not woman? Why is that?

I note you have an all male board, your pay gap between the sexes, not gender has also been noted for it's huge disparity against natal women.
You know the difference between men and natal women when it comes to opportunity and pay.

The fact that I've had to repeatedly say natal women, not just women is offensive and ridiculous.

You're a company who sells toiletries, how dare you try and remove the word woman from natural language and then have the audicity to lecture us natal women who rightly so protest.

Avon and all other companies under the same umbrella as you will also be boycotted.

You have successfully alienated your natal women customers, well done.

It doesn't especially matter. I can't see the Body Shop surviving the coming economic crash, anyway. They're over-priced, what they sell now is tat, and their shops are always empty. They're only still around at all because they have an MLM model - and again, in a huge recession, there are only so many over-priced, under-delivering products women will buy from their friends

Exactly what I understand, BS has been in dire straits for quite a few years, propped up by its MLM business which gives it a guaranteed customer base (the distributors who think they’ve got their own businesses) and it enables them to put the costs of doing business onto (mainly) women who they don’t have to employ in a secure way with any safety nets or job security. I’ve never understood why BS has been seen as particularly ethical when it’s been operating this female targeting scam since 1994. Regardless of one’s position re J K Rowling it’s hard to be surprised about BS’s tone if you’ve spent any time watching the MLM industry’s targeting and exploitation of those that sign up to their MLM.

I was on for bloody ages. Not certain it was human.

I used their live chat the other day. Got nothing out of it really so I just requested that they pass along my comments to senior management. But it's still worth doing, just to keep the volume up. I'd love to know how many complaints they've had across all channels and platforms.

And now their chat is switched off and the .com site doesn’t seem to be up.

Oh be still my beating heart - I got a reply...

“Thank you for getting in touch with us.

We welcome hearing different points of view and your comments have been heard and noted by us.

From all of us at The Body Shop.”

Yeah...nah... f-off Body Shit.

www.theguardian.com/film/2018/mar/18/the-square-review-ruben-ostlund-cannes-palme-dor

Mark Kermode review for the Gruniad.

g.co/kgs/bmi5Y4

This one.

Hang in there - it’s an experience having a grown-ass human telling you that men have periods.

Ahh missed them! They must have snuck in quietly, no ping, and then all I saw was survey which I gave them ) for.

Started again. Yeah, 16 minutes now. Hmm.

The chat moves faster - maybe they exaggerate the wait time to put people off. You won’t get anything from chat - just parroting ‘men have periods’ we were just trying to be niiiiiiiiice to her.