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Labour 'stands back' from transgender war

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BovaryX · 15/06/2020 08:45

I haven't seen this already posted, apologies if it has been. The Times reports that Labour is 'standing back' from the transgender issue in recognition of the fact its threats to expel members with 'transphobic' views during the last election contributed to a collapse of Labour support in the 'Red Wall'. Meanwhile, an Amnesty International spokeswoman claims that the Conservative proposals amount to a 'hostile environment' for trans people in the UK.

^any such proposals would cause a headache for Sir Keir Starmer after disputes over the intersection of trans rights with feminism overshadowed the Labour leadership election. Sir Keir was the only candidate not to sign a pledge calling on the party to expel members with “transphobic” views. He instead tried to take the heat out of the issue.Last week JK Rowling was criticised by the stars of the Harry Potter films after she used her experience of domestic violence to express concerns about female-only spaces and warn against attempts to “erode ‘woman’ as a political and biological class”.
Labour has committed itself to reform of the Gender Recognition Act and David Lammy, the shadow justice secretary, said: “There’s now a change of view that people ought to be able to self-identify and not over-medicalise.” But he declined to go further, telling the BBC: “We would have to look at the legislation when it comes forward in detail^

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 15/06/2020 09:09

Well, thats about £22 of my hard earned cash I consider well saved!

Idiots!

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 15/06/2020 09:08

Another no from me.

BovaryX · 15/06/2020 09:06

and if they continue progressivism

'Progressivism,' is identity politics. 'Progressivism' is in direct conflict with women's rights to sex segregated spaces. 'Progressivism' lost Labour the last election. There is absolutely nothing remotely 'progressive' about many of its articles of faith.

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TheThirdPigWasTooClever · 15/06/2020 09:03

@KaronAVyrus

I’ll vote for them when they officially apologise to women for their staggering misogyny.
Absolutely going to be essential to reciting the damage they’ve caused to their party’s name. But I’m optimistic they’ve realised women are people, not a sub-class here to serve male desires.
KaronAVyrus · 15/06/2020 09:01

I’ll vote for them when they officially apologise to women for their staggering misogyny.

BolloxtoGender · 15/06/2020 09:00

Pro women DOES NOT MEAN anti trans. That's a failed logic TRAs try to channel people into.

TheThirdPigWasTooClever · 15/06/2020 08:59

@Clymene

Thanks but no thanks
That’s what I wrote at the top of my voting slip when I spoilt it. 😆 However, the world is waking up. I consider this promising, and if they continue progressivism then I might actually be able to bring myself to vote for them in the next election. Will be watching.
BolloxtoGender · 15/06/2020 08:58

Labour was/is part of the problem. Not voting for them however smooth the leader seems. IMO Blair was the worst.

CASCASCAS · 15/06/2020 08:58

Gosh so anti Trans. Many moments here. Dear me.

testing987654321 · 15/06/2020 08:57

It's a start. We need to keep pushing them. It's almost as though Keir has noticed that women male up 50% of voters.

Clymene · 15/06/2020 08:55

Thanks but no thanks

Labour 'stands back' from transgender war
LillianBland · 15/06/2020 08:53

So they’re basically going to pretend that they’ve changed their minds, hope that gains them a few votes and then shite all over woven, once they get into power. They can fuck of, if they think people are that gullible. Until they come out and say what they’re going to do to protect actual females and female spaces, they get get to fuck.

ThinEndoftheWedge · 15/06/2020 08:51

And the silly women will trust a party where a woman’s organisation is a ‘hate ‘ organisation and where prospective leaders advocate incarcerating women prisoners with rapists and Labour members applaud.

How many (ordinarily) sensible Labour MPs spoke out against this? I can’t remember one.

No chance.

Babdoc · 15/06/2020 08:51

Interestingly, the Tories and the Communists are the only two parties that support women as a sex class. The rest are all tying themselves in knots to score woke points with the TRAs.

SeasonallySnowyPeasant · 15/06/2020 08:49
ScrimpshawTheSecond · 15/06/2020 08:47

I see. So they're not going to stand up for women, or apologise, or take any action. Just stick their fingers in their ears and hope it all goes away.

Binterested · 15/06/2020 08:46

Ha ha. Still not voting for them. Not until they know what a woman is.

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