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Threats from transactivists in Ireland.

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irishfeminist · 14/06/2020 09:37

Just getting it out there that transactivists in Ireland have been making threats to any woman who has wanted to discuss the effect self-id is having on women's rights in Ireland. If anyone Irish is reading, you need to be aware. If you support these people, you need to know what you're supporting, and if not, you need to be aware of the threats that are being made. One of these people works for TENI and has spoken at a National Council for Women in Ireland conference.

Threats from transactivists in Ireland.
Threats from transactivists in Ireland.
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irishfeminist · 14/06/2020 17:37

Hi could you post the Morgan Page stuff on another thread as we're talking about the Irish situation and it's a bit of a derail? Thanks.

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SunsetBeetch · 14/06/2020 17:29

A bit of background on Morgan Page.

They were the person behind that Cotton Ceiling workshop, and ran a group for trans people which seemed to be lacking in safeguarding:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3458395-Looks-like-the-National-Lottery-and-Stonewall-have-picked-a-side-in-the-cotton-ceiling-debate

4thwavenow.com/2019/01/26/my-trans-youth-group-experience-with-morgan-page/

purplepizzabunny · 14/06/2020 17:22

Ed by 30 sept 19. Nine months late? Wtf.

purplepizzabunny · 14/06/2020 17:20

Interesting. I did a google search to find the latest teni financial statements and the annual report, which usually would contsin them had a weaselly escuse from their finance director. I checked solocheck.ie and it says their last financial statements were to be fil

purplepizzabunny · 14/06/2020 17:04

Social innovation fund ireland (a government organisation) gave a grant to teni recently and posted a message in the last few days condemning transphobia, and though they didnt mention jk directly it was clear what they meant. Wonder if they know that a teni staff member is posting this?

bd67thSaysReinstateLangCleg · 14/06/2020 16:53

@battlecuntgalactica this is what you and your woke buddies were supporting when you posted that open letter here a couple of years back.

When someone with a dick threatens to use violence, they show that they are a man. Open your eyes, see this.

OldeMagick · 14/06/2020 14:15

I thought that was a bit weird too @Dances

Dances · 14/06/2020 12:34

Olde
The original thread is still there though. Odd

FlyingOink · 14/06/2020 12:25

irishfeminist
Thank you, that makes more sense. A lot of politicking seems to happen behind the scenes, the usual boys club bullshit is going strong.

OldeMagick · 14/06/2020 12:11

@Dances

Yes ii have read a few mad tweets this morning. This one is probably the best so far...

mobile.twitter.com/morganmpage/status/1271929811104038912

Good to know that we are planning genocide of a Sunday Morning..

Hmm
Threats from transactivists in Ireland.
irishfeminist · 14/06/2020 11:44

They don't care about the rapist in the women's prison. They will tell you that women rape too and that it's no big deal. They don't give a shit.

We can support the writer by reporting her harassers, by sharing their violent threats with as many people as possible.

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SuperSleepyBaby · 14/06/2020 11:35

See this article from the Law Society of Ireland
www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/male-bodied-transgender-inmate-housed-with-women-prisoners/

IchbineinBerlinner · 14/06/2020 11:34

How could we support this Irish writer?

irishfeminist · 14/06/2020 11:09

FlyingOink they have been influenced by a small group of TRAs who have successfully captured orgs like NWCI and the Repeal the 8th campaign. They have a disproportionate influence, when most ordinary Irish women don't even know what the GRA 2015 means for women and girls' rights. The law passed with no public consultation or impact assessment, and even the review was very under-advertised and compromised by the fact that the review board contained people who drafted the very legislation they were reporting on.

They have fought hard to drown out dissenting voices, smear them as right-wingers whose views are on the fringes of acceptable discourse, but it is in fact they who are the extremists. So please don't assume they represent most ordinary people.

What's driving them mad at the moment is that incidents like the JK Rowling affair have provoked discussion for the first time. It's narcissistic rage.

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Dontbeme · 14/06/2020 11:08

A fine of 500 euro for first time offence of soliciting a prostitute applies in Ireland, 1000euro for each further offence. But let your dog foul on the street and a maximum fine of 3000euro applies. So women in Ireland are literally worth less than dog shit. I am beyond tired and frustrated with how women are devalued and degraded every damn day.

FlyingOink · 14/06/2020 10:59

Ireland is trying to walk before it can run. It's a shit place for women's rights and they've shelved that fight and are trying to look woker than woke.
First marital rape conviction was in 2002: link
Abortion is limited to before 12 weeks and there's a three day wait between appointment and procedure, so women still travel to the UK for one: link
1932-1973 married women weren't allowed to work in the public sector, as de Valera wanted women to stay at home.and have babies.
1937-1995 divorce was illegal.
Until 1976 a man could sell the family home without knowledge or permission from his wife.
You couldn't buy a condom without a prescription until 1985.
Symphysiotomies were carried out on women against their will because caesarians might affect future births and women were there to make babies. Some left the women unable to walk.
A 17 year old girl raped in a lane has her knickers discussed in court to prove she was up for it, defendant is found not guilty: www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46207304
Of course the case where the teenage victim later killed herself after having her knickers physically held up in court was in woke Scotland.
Both countries with terrible police (PACE doesn't exist in Scotland and the Masons network there is huge in policing), terrible conviction rates, massive alcoholism and domestic violence and both countries consider themselves superior to England where at the very least the record keeping is more accurate.
(Some of the countries with the lowest recorded rape rates are the most dangerous).
I'm quite sick of the attitude of Irish activists. Get your own house in order first, how dare they claim to be feminists arguing for the rights of crossdressing males when the rights of females are so fragile? Why are they pretending things are hunky-dory over there?

Dances · 14/06/2020 10:55

I don't use FB but surely you could block people shouting about terfs? Unless it's your mum or something Smile

MadamBatty · 14/06/2020 10:51

where do we start?

romdowa · 14/06/2020 10:47

Yet these are the same people who would claim to be "vulnerable" and "terrified" while in reality it's just more male violence against women. It baffles me that people cant realise this. So many people on my fb screaming about terfs, that I would honestly be scared to post anything against their agenda.

FOJN · 14/06/2020 10:42

Good to know that we are planning genocide of a Sunday Morning..

Oh bugger, I had it in the diary for Tuesday you'll have to start without me. 😁

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 14/06/2020 10:32

Good 7Days.
Yes, where to start?

7Days · 14/06/2020 10:29

Earl
I hear you.

Where are we legally? Is it time to start writing to TDs?

NotTerfNorCis · 14/06/2020 10:29

Afaik dirtycitybird is Beth Flanagan, the American behind the Terfs Out letter.

contactusdeletus · 14/06/2020 10:28

They're always just so keen to batter any woman who has a dissenting opinion.

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 14/06/2020 10:21

Ok that stuff is getting a bit close to home now isn't it?
Watched and appalled at Canada (JY) and US (Cyclist).

In my profession there is a lot of emphasis on child protection and understanding how well-intentioned people can collude or be coerced into supporting harmful behaviour.

I cannot fold.

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