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Barracker · 13/06/2020 11:30

Hey up menstruators

Little fun activity for Saturday morning.
Do a search for 'women' on the Body Shop Website.

And...what was it Shon Faye said again? Oh yes. "Enjoy ur erasure"

I give The Body Shop till Xmas to go under.
I hope business undergrads use them as the classic case study in how to insult your customers and blow up your business during a global recession.

#BloodyGoodRiddance

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Datun · 13/06/2020 13:23

As women are their default customer, what a shame they decided to mock one for being sexually assaulted.

And whereas it might be true that the word women should be a gimme on their website, that's not the stance they were taking. Why aren't they calling men 'people who use shaving cream'?

The reason is it's ludicrous. You can't possibly run a business or sell a service without a plural noun for the people you are targeting.

So why does that all change, when it's to do with women?

Is it fine to have a plural noun for, say clothing, but not if they actually depend on biology, like period pants?

What are the rules?

ItsLateHumpty · 13/06/2020 13:15

...if I hadn’t had to spend 5 minutes trying to remember the word ‘default’‘

Oh god, I thought it was only me that did that!

aliasundercover · 13/06/2020 12:55

Sorry @testing987654321, I was having some sort of brain freeze at that time. I reckon I’d have posted before you if I hadn’t had to spend 5 minutes trying to remember the word ‘default’ :)

Floisme · 13/06/2020 12:37

Initial questioning and scepticism are how we make sure we get our facts right, and I think it's dangerous to equate them with 'making excuses'.

The point that the Body Shop sees women as their default customer seems like a fair one to me - it's precisely why their response to JK discussing violence against women was so tone deaf. Interested in any counter arguments though.

LillianBland · 13/06/2020 12:37

Oh fgs. Your son is right. Feminist blindness to just how ridiculous they can sound sometimes runs very deep too.

I’d be more convinced if they hadn’t just posted that snide comment to JK Rowling. A company that can’t recognise what a woman is, can not convince me that they have women’s interests at heart.

DidoLamenting · 13/06/2020 12:29

Unfortunately he then went on to pontificate that it was be it was mainly products for women, they maybe felt that they didn’t need to actually mention women. FFS! Make blindness to female oppression, runs very deep within him

Oh fgs. Your son is right. Feminist blindness to just how ridiculous they can sound sometimes runs very deep too.

TwentyViginti · 13/06/2020 12:29

I no longer menstruate. Am I now a post menstruator?

DidoLamenting · 13/06/2020 12:27

I got the same results searching "women" on the Clinique site - no results and for "men" got the list of the small number of products specifically marketed for men. Women is the default. It's not sinister.

Ladybyrd · 13/06/2020 12:21

I just think people like to find things to be offended about

I agree. Oh the injustice.

BaronessRadcliffeFemish · 13/06/2020 12:17

I got the impression that OP was bloody fucking annoyed.

That's a completely different thing.

BaronessRadcliffeFemish · 13/06/2020 12:15

I just think people like to find things to be offended about

OP didn't say it offended her.

I just think people (you) like to find things to make up about other people

Muttonindistress · 13/06/2020 12:13

I think your son has a good point Lilian (darn it) but I’m still tempted to write a complaint saying they’re excluding transwomen with their use of the word men. Just for fun.

BTW I got a letter from my GP this morning asking me to come in for a cervical smear and it called me a woman rather than a cervix haver. Yay.

FamBae · 13/06/2020 12:09

I totally agree with TheGirlWithAPrince

LillianBland · 13/06/2020 12:08

I just think people like to find things to be offended about.

I dare you to nip over to twitter and tell the TRAs that.

TheGirlWithAPrince · 13/06/2020 12:05

I just think people like to find things to be offended about.

LillianBland · 13/06/2020 12:04

Oh look. Already people are using excuses as to why the word woman/women is being erased. 🤦‍♀️

LillianBland · 13/06/2020 12:01

My son who thinks I’m the biggest transphobe ever, for wanting to keep Male bodied people out of female spaces, thought you were making that up, so he checked. His face was a picture and he admitted that was ‘odd’ Hmm. Unfortunately he then went on to pontificate that it was be it was mainly products for women, they maybe felt that they didn’t need to actually mention women. FFS! Make blindness to female oppression, runs very deep within him. Sad

Gncq · 13/06/2020 11:55

@testing987654321

Oi!
Grin
Gncq · 13/06/2020 11:55

Oh it did work.

Gncq · 13/06/2020 11:54

Eh?

Victoria Secret results

Gncq · 13/06/2020 11:53

Victoria Secret results

HandsOffMyRights · 13/06/2020 11:50

Very short sighted of them given their customer base will be largely female.

Added them to my boycot list - they are ethically bankrupt if they can't see that females suffer globally because of biological sex.

testing987654321 · 13/06/2020 11:50

Oi!

aliasundercover · 13/06/2020 11:49

Ah, Gncq beat me to it.

aliasundercover · 13/06/2020 11:48

I never use Body Shop - certainly not after their recent statement - but I assume that all products are assumed to be for women, except for the 64 that are specifically for men.

I don't think this is erasure, it's one of the few times that female is the default sex - unlike just about every other product/service.

Poor men, how must if feel for them?

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