Mermaids response to JK Rowling

What I mean though is, I have no issue with who is using toilets as toilets - just going about their day.

So while I do understand other people have different views on that.. and I do understand why, that’s not something I’m particularly concerned about.

It is though IMO an issue if wider access also makes it easier for sexual predators to have easier access to victims.

How is it nothing to do with trans people, if they’d also now be sharing toilets with the sexual predators trying to get access to victims?

You’d think, it would be a shared concern...

Crikey. We are attracting a lot of attention after the government decided that we're right.

Yep, can’t quote a deleted post. MN are all over this. Swiss cheese already.

Way to shut down a thread. 🤔

Beer it was because you quoted a deleted post. So nothing you said

I have no idea why you deleted me mumsnet. I did not break talk guidelines.

If anyone wants to see a response to Mermaids (and JKR) coming from a different point of view, have a read of this:

www.bayswatersupport.org.uk/j-k-rowling

It’s a bit long but gives a look at how we came to be where we are.

Yes, this forum is for men and women, and you don’t even need to be a parent.

Shocker I know 🙄

No I haven't assumed that.

Yes, you did. With me.

If I am to assume you are a cis woman, You have no right to speak for anyone in the LGBTQ+ community especially not trans people as you haven't walked the walk.

That's what you said to me.

Ava, you are making all sorts of assumptions all over the place. You are taking fiction as fact. You are repeating all sorts of slander without evidence. Have you, by any chance, been working for Mermaids? You'd fit right in there.

Mermaids' faux sympathy at the start of their letter makes me angry. As though they are only sympathizing with her because whilst she experienced some instances of abuse, they know trans people have it worse and they are being generous by recognising she may have possibly had a bit of a sad time in her life.

Me too, and yes.

Surely telling a trans woman that I am male for life is against the rules?

How? A trans woman is biologically male. By definition. They have a female gender identity, but their sex is male. Sex and gender are different.

The more people standing up for women and our children the better.

Terf is highly offensive to so you can pack that in aswell.

You know full well no doubt the terf hashtag on Twitter and the threats made .

We arent god. we didnt create the rules of nature. If that bothers you that's not our fault so stop the abuse please

I am a woman and have just as much right to be here as anyone else and will continue to stand up for the trans women and parents on this forum.

Who said you didn't?
Lots of different people join MN.

I was diagnosed with gender dysphoria

I can only imagine how difficult it is to live with this mental illness.
My experience of mental illness is confined to PND not the same I know but its still affects me negatively.

You are not a woman. You are a transwoman.
I know you don't agree but you cannot force me to call you a woman.

Storme started the stonewall riots and she was a lesbian.
Marsha was the black gay drag queen who is on record as saying the riots had already started by the time he arrived.

And I've fucking had enough of idiots in their twenties whinging about how because they don't like what JKR has said, it means Harry Potter is ruined and their life is destroyed. Because Harry potter is a fictional character. And JKR talking about biological truths and supporting women and girls has absolutely nothing to do with her work of fiction.

Where are the Cormoran Strike fans raging about her recent posts? Are they threatening to throw their replica wooden legs in the fire or scrap their replica landrovers?

Mermaids' faux sympathy at the start of their letter makes me angry. As though they are only sympathizing with her because whilst she experienced some instances of abuse, they know trans people have it worse and they are being generous by recognising she may have possibly had a bit of a sad time in her life.

Biological truths of binary sex does not erase transgender people. It is not literal violence to suggest or state that. I stand with JKR.

And no, a belief that sex is a fixed biological reality that never changes, and this is crucial to maintaining the necessary equalities and protections for female people, is neither against the law, nor against the rules of the forum.

Being male is just reality. If you weren't male you wouldn't be a trans woman would you?

Just own it and live your best life, trying to compete and agitate against women all the time won't make you happy.

I take it TERF is offensive too?

Yes, obviously

None of us chose our sex!

But thank you for agreeing not to use 'cis', and yes as I'm sure you know TERF is generally used as an insult.