Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

Mermaids response to JK Rowling

438 replies

SapphosRock · 13/06/2020 08:44

Interesting to read the other side:

mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/dear-jk-rowling/

OP posts:
Thread gallery
9
DickKerrLadies · 15/06/2020 16:52

No woman when walking alone in a dark or secluded place worries that another woman might be lurking in the shadows.

Usually the opposite of worry, really.

SunsetBeetch · 15/06/2020 16:51

Marsha P Johnson did NOT start Stonewall and WAS NOT TRANS.

twitter.com/FredSargeant/status/1268328035167633412?s=19

Mermaids response to JK Rowling
Mermaids response to JK Rowling
Datun · 15/06/2020 16:51

I am a 5'7 weak person who has been attacked by my sister who is taller and of a bigger build,

Have you told Liz Truss??? Better get emailing.

OvaHere · 15/06/2020 16:50

No woman when walking alone in a dark or secluded place worries that another woman might be lurking in the shadows.

Of course Ava knows this and is just here to provoke with tired old topes, obfuscations and outright lies we've all heard a million times.

AvaMonroe · 15/06/2020 16:50

@LastRoloIsMine

Let's not forget there are female predators too.

I would have a pretty decent chance at fighting off a natal woman but I wouldn't fair so well against a male.
I don't want to share toilets or changing rooms with males. Its always males who force this and its creepy and makes me suspicious.

I am a 5'7 weak person who has been attacked by my sister who is taller and of a bigger build, You can't generalize. You may well be right in a lot of scenarios but this idea that you could fight off a woman before you could a trans woman or a man isn't right. You could fight me off, Not that you'd ever need to.
Datun · 15/06/2020 16:49

Maybe there could be a rule where there can't just be two people in a bathroom?

Or.

We could just let the government get on with what they said they're going to do, and keep toilets segregated by sex.

gamerchick · 15/06/2020 16:48

There is not a woman alive who hasn't been either groped, cat called, ordered to smile, or witnessed male dominant behaviour

Its true I havent met a single female who hasn't had something.

Even though I didn't find out what that horrible handshake meant where an older man tickled your palm until recently. Gave me the proper creeps that did.

DickKerrLadies · 15/06/2020 16:48

@SarahTancredi

If theres no threat then why cant male bodied people use the facilities for male bodied people dressed however they want?

And if the mens loos are indeed dangerous then what does it achieve to fight for a rule that allows the very men you are escaping to follow you straight into the womens or be present in gender neutral toilets?

Gender neutral toilets were rejected as an option along side single sex facilities so why would we believe its about safety.

If it's just about going to pee then use the mens? They are just peeing too.

Good idea. After all, 99% of people just want to pee and get on with their day.
SarahTancredi · 15/06/2020 16:47

If theres no threat then why cant male bodied people use the facilities for male bodied people dressed however they want?

And if the mens loos are indeed dangerous then what does it achieve to fight for a rule that allows the very men you are escaping to follow you straight into the womens or be present in gender neutral toilets?

Gender neutral toilets were rejected as an option along side single sex facilities so why would we believe its about safety.

If it's just about going to pee then use the mens? They are just peeing too.

FloralBunting · 15/06/2020 16:46

Jaysus wept.

I know the Mermaids response is rather embarrassing when you pull it apart and see how they have had to change it, but I'm still surprised this is the thread chosen by GFers to come and display 'innate femininity'/go on the merry wind up until 1000 posts.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 15/06/2020 16:46

Just more of the deliberate taunting. Ava knows fine well what they’re saying is ridiculous.

I just feel sorry for them really. Biscuit

LastRoloIsMine · 15/06/2020 16:46

Let's not forget there are female predators too.

I would have a pretty decent chance at fighting off a natal woman but I wouldn't fair so well against a male.
I don't want to share toilets or changing rooms with males. Its always males who force this and its creepy and makes me suspicious.

titchy · 15/06/2020 16:44

Let's not forget there are female predators too.

Oh fuck right off with that - males make up 99% of sexual assaults. How fucking dare you.

And if you're a TW you are NOT biologically female.

titchy · 15/06/2020 16:43

There is not a woman alive who hasn't been either grouped, cat called, ordered to smile, or witnessed male dominant behaviour.

Or girl. It starts going Sad

Ava and any other TW - ask your female (biologically female) friends and family about it. I guarantee they'll all have experienced something in Datun's post.

AvaMonroe · 15/06/2020 16:42

@blubellsarebells

In a womans body Ava. Showing your male privilege there.
I am female, the way the world is going now gender specific bathrooms will probably be a thing of the past. I agree with having cubicles and not urinals but I really don't see this thing of a sexual predator having access to hurt people as a given the way a lot seem to. 99% of people just want to pee and get on with their day, It is our job as humans to fight off these predators together if and when these situations occur, Maybe there could be a rule where there can't just be two people in a bathroom? as either or could turn on the other, Let's not forget there are female predators too.
FloralBunting · 15/06/2020 16:42

Where there are men. It's been quite a thing for the past few millennia here on planet earth.

I mean, belittling the idea of being wary of sexual predation. Much empathy, so feminine.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 15/06/2020 16:41

@AvaMonroe

Where do you all I've that there are so many lurking sexual predators?
Why do we have to educate you?

This board is full of legitimate stats, read, you may just learn something.

Datun · 15/06/2020 16:40

groped !

Datun · 15/06/2020 16:39

AvaMonroe

Where do you live that you're not aware?

The MeToo campaign ran to 11,000,000 posts in under 24 hours.

20% of women will be sexually assaulted/raped during their life.

There is not a woman alive who hasn't been either grouped, cat called, ordered to smile, or witnessed male dominant behaviour.

It's unsurprising that you wouldn't know that, though.

tabulahrasa · 15/06/2020 16:38

@AvaMonroe

Where do you all I've that there are so many lurking sexual predators?
Where do you live that it’s not something you have to ever worry about?...
SusieMyerson · 15/06/2020 16:38

@Beerincomechampagnetastes

I can't claim credit unfortunately. Found it on twitter Grin

blubellsarebells · 15/06/2020 16:38

In a womans body Ava.
Showing your male privilege there.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 15/06/2020 16:37

@Datun

Crikey. We are attracting a lot of attention after the government decided that we're right.
Absolutely.

The use of offensive language is deliberate to illicit a response that can be used as evidence of unpleasant behaviour from women.

Of course, it won’t work, simply because we’re not unpleasant or unkind or any other name you may call us. We are just correct.

It won’t be long before you sock puppet your own responses and use that anyway.

We still won’t back down.

LastRoloIsMine · 15/06/2020 16:37

Where do you all I've that there are so many lurking sexual predators?

Not sure there is a specific area.
The majority of sexual predators are male so where ever males are I suppose. Obviously that's not all males but seen as they don't wear a "i am a serial predator" sign we have no idea who is or isn't. So we put things in place yo reduce risk.

AvaMonroe · 15/06/2020 16:34

Where do you all I've that there are so many lurking sexual predators?