Mermaids response to JK Rowling

This whole gender movement isn't big on the concept of consent.

Indeed. Or boundaries.

If Ava, or anyone else, thinks that sex segregated spaces shouldn't exist then they need to explain the rationale behind them in the first place. In this instance it is for the privacy, dignity and safety of women and girls.

They then need to explain and evidence how the risk from males no longer exists and why women and girls no longer have a right to privacy and dignity.

THIS. It's always the same - say they're a woman, but never have any actual empathy with how we feel.

I am not wrong on everything or anything for that matter

Well you are wrong on the you are a woman/female thing.

world is going now gender specific bathrooms

There are no "gender specific bathrooms" as sex segregation is based on sex. There are female facilities, and males invading them.

Luckily, you won't have to put up with that sort of nonsense from any more toilet attendants. You will just be able to explain what sex you are.

Ova:

If Ava, or anyone else, thinks that sex segregated spaces shouldn't exist then they need to explain the rationale behind them in the first place. In this instance it is for the privacy, dignity and safety of women and girls.

They then need to explain and evidence how the risk from males no longer exists and why women and girls no longer have a right to privacy and dignity.

^^This.

Beautifully put. What she said.

Do you really think transgender people stick out like a sore thumb? Do you not think that maybe a lot, not all nor does it matter but a lot just blend in?

Sometimes it's not what someone looks like that makes them stick out like a sore thumb.

Ava, you really believe that the smiles and warmth you felt were 'sisterly' kinship? It never occurred to you that you were clocked, every single time, by women who learned from birth to appease and humour the male person, some of those women via discovering how bad it can be if they don't?

I do applaud you Ava for venturing out from your social media bubble. In your playground we would indeed get doxxed/punched/stalked. It must be really uncomfortable to be excluded to such different opinions to what you have become used to. But there are many more people in the real world than your bubble. So you should be prepared otherwise it will consistently shock you that most people honestly don't believe what you are expecting them to.

Do you really think transgender people stick out like a sore thumb? Do you not think that maybe a lot, not all nor does it matter but a lot just blend in?

Do you think you've blended in?

Being absolutely wrong about just about everything, calling everyone cunts, and repeating that you're coming into their private space whether they want you to or not?

I'm really late to this. I have my bingo card, tho. Have we had Stunning and /or Brave, yet?

You keep believing that. I dont call protected little groups defended with block lists on social media particularly representative. Step out of the bubble and you will see that no one actually believes it.

I actually almost feel sorry for alot of them. I think they are being used by their followers . Wound up and convinced everything they say is right by people who think it's funny to do that to someone. No wonder when reality bites it's such a shock.

Wow, this has gone the usual way, hasn't it.

I'm sorry to break it to you Ava but in real life everyone I know knows the difference between a woman and a transwomen and they too are just as appaulled by self-id by anyone on the Feminist boards of MN.
JK Rowling speaking out about sex has embolded so many people to start conversations in real life with me about this, many were too scared to do so previously. So I'll have to hand the ass back to someone else I'm afriad.

YY I've heard lots of TW say that "no-one has ever said anything" and I think I'm not fucking surprised, because I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable or confident enough to say anything.

Indeed so. And having witnessed on here and on Twitter the violent rage of some people - I would back out at a rate of knots.

Thank heavens the majority of society doesn't think like this

Think like what?

That female people should have rights?

That there are issues that biological females will have as a result of losing single sex spaces that cannot just be brushed aside and females told they don't matter enough when male people have need?

That biological sex is a reality and something female people have to be able to talk about, identify and organise around to meet their own needs no matter how distressing it may be to male people?

You're throwing a lot of anger around but nothing practical, stop shouting and try talking.

It is relevant whether or not someone has genital surgery.

And it might be interesting to see whether Liz Truss makes a distinction.

Then we can really ask everybody. 😱

Ava the majority of Joe public know what sex means and they know it cannot be changed. The problem you have is social media is just an echo chamber. Like minded people surrounding themselves with other like minded people.

You may think that the world agrees with you but the truth is they don't you just don't go far enough outside your bubble to notice.

fact check jk was right:

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-rowling-right-that-hormones-or-surgery-not-required-for-legal-gender-change?fbclid=IwAR2uFO-fAE-OiFN7vJ4EN2P2SZ9DxvHM6lKiGTg6-oLJ7iRkUbMCoGhKgO0

YY I've heard lots of TW say that "no-one has ever said anything" and I think I'm not fucking surprised, because I certainly wouldn't feel comfortable or confident enough to say anything.

And it really pisses me off that my scared silence would be taken as validation.

Dammit, I'm gorgeous. Cunt and all.

And nobody's doing the proper Special Guest etiquette either.

Mass fail of female socialisation and stereotyping here girls, it's shocking. However never mind, I still have my spot welding to do while I read this thread.