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Why are the trans community blaming women for the actions of men?

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ShirleyPhallus · 13/06/2020 06:03

I’m reading everything I possibly can in light of JKR statement (which beautifully articulates everything I feel)

One thing I cannot see a clear answer to though is just why all the TRAs are just so angry at women. I have seen a serious of tweets linked on Facebook that talk about how dangerous JKR’s thinking is to the trans community as it makes “people” (I assume men?!) think that trans women are not real women.

Leaving aside the argument of whether they are or aren’t, does anyone know why TRAs aren’t more angry at the men who are actually doing the rape / murder / assault that also affects women and why they’re angry at women for standing up for themselves? This is more than just misogyny surely?

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Lordfrontpaw · 13/06/2020 09:39

@SisterWendyBuckett

But without women who will tell them how special they are? Because it tends to be women doing the leg work by the looks of it.

Handmaidens are welcome.

But they mostly grow up and get partners, have kids, juggle childcare and childcare, look after aging parents... or is it like some men who seem to ‘trade in’ partners for younger, perter models when they start to get older...?
SisterWendyBuckett · 13/06/2020 09:38

Nobody wants to destroy us (at least not the vast vast majority!)

Thankfully in most cases the destruction is not literal. And of course Not All Men - not most men.

I'm talking about a minority who are seriously disturbed or who are using this as a way to exorcise their misogyny.

It's deeply uncomfortable and painful to acknowledge. But if we don't do so we are walking blindfolded.

Burgundy1844 · 13/06/2020 09:35

The truth Hmm

SisterWendyBuckett · 13/06/2020 09:34

Sister Wendy you have such a dark view of the world
Unfortunately the truth can seem this way to some people.

Burgundy1844 · 13/06/2020 09:33

Nobody wants to destroy us (at least not the vast vast majority!)

SisterWendyBuckett · 13/06/2020 09:32

But without women who will tell them how special they are? Because it tends to be women doing the leg work by the looks of it.

Handmaidens are welcome.

Burgundy1844 · 13/06/2020 09:32

Sister Wendy you have such a dark view of the world Sad

Burgundy1844 · 13/06/2020 09:31

@gncq I suspect people dislike being told what they believe as much as you do Hmm

Lordfrontpaw · 13/06/2020 09:30

But without women who will tell them how special they are? Because it tends to be women doing the leg work by the looks of it.

SisterWendyBuckett · 13/06/2020 09:29

The main aim is to gain entry into the magical kingdom. Not just to enter it but to change it to their own image and ideology.

Imagine how angry it must make them when they are told that woman/female is a distinct class defined by biology. Sorry, you can't come in.

Destroying those they see as gatekeepers, through defamation and violent means, is the age old way to tear the gates down.

The fact that it allows for misogyny and hatred against actual women is a massive bonus.

They don't want to be us. They want to destroy us and replace us with themselves.

eurochick · 13/06/2020 09:27

@Gaspode I used to have that cartoon on my office wall as a junior lawyer. I was never asked to make the tea.

Gncq · 13/06/2020 09:27

how dangerous JKR’s thinking is to the trans community as it makes “people” (I assume men?!) think that trans women are not real women

Ask any average man spewing "trans women are women" if they will shag a person with a penis.

It's a no no. (Unless they're bi/gay).

Even Owen Jones him very gay self said it was homophobic to ask him if he would perform oral sex on a trans man.

These men ALL know TWANW. They ALL know TMANM.

They are exceptionally gleefull about insulting and abusing women who say the very same thing.

Huh, it's almost as if we're living in a patriarchal misogynistic society after all.

Lordfrontpaw · 13/06/2020 09:26

Sorry what research was that then? Is there a similar ‘why young people are naive fools? paper from the institute of stereotypes?

SarahTancredi · 13/06/2020 09:22

Yes there is something very familiar about the rage when women say no.

Same shit as always.

Burgundy1844 · 13/06/2020 09:22

Not yours necessarily, but many are/were. This is not contentious, look at the research.

Lordfrontpaw · 13/06/2020 09:20

So my parents and grandparents were racists bigots? Gee thanks but you are wrong there.

Burgundy1844 · 13/06/2020 09:20

Not everyone gets old sadly

Burgundy1844 · 13/06/2020 09:19

“With age comes maturity” but often also racism, climate denial, transphobia and the rest. Only time will tell whether this generation holds to their beliefs or goes the same way.

justanotherneighinparadise · 13/06/2020 09:18

I LOVE the fact that everyone (god willing) gets old eventually. It makes me smile at night. Wonderful leveller.

Lordfrontpaw · 13/06/2020 09:16

They just hate women who don’t adore them. With age comes maturity and common sense - therefore older women question, they don’t get carried away on the rainbow cloud, they have actual lives and live experience. They don’t have the time or patience to humour fools. They don’t just keep their mouth shut I’m case they upset a man.

And girlies - you will become middle aged, oh yeas you will. Social media will always follow you and you can’t pretend that you didn’t condone or get involved with pissing on women.

I will be old by then but will there to remind you. Every bloody day.

justanotherneighinparadise · 13/06/2020 09:11

I’m not sure they hate all women, they loathe older women which i assumed might be a mother complex. That why they love throwing around ‘hag’ comments.

Burgundy1844 · 13/06/2020 09:08

Funny how it’s younger people who are leading on the environment, leading on BLM leading on trans rights and on so many other issues. It is their future to shape.

totallyyesno · 13/06/2020 09:00

. I genuinely think some younger women (and a few of the men) have no idea how much female biology will impact on women's lives and careers.
Very true. A lot of the 20 something trans allies also seem to genuinely think that by not naming sex, we eliminate sexism.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 13/06/2020 08:57

Misogyny

RuffleCrow · 13/06/2020 07:59

Jealousy.

Misogyny.

Tradition.

Women are the main protectors and defenders of children.

How many reasons do you need?