Celeb supporters of jkr

Talcum X has been doing a bit of back peddling today.

please leave Greta alone!

Also would ther be any point in lobbying certain people such as Greta Thunberg or Caitlin Moran?

There was a time when I loved Moran. Bought her books etc. But I've come to the conclusion that she's that certain type of woke feminist who wouldn't go against the crowd. She just likes shouting things that everybody is already okay with. It's not the brave edge of feminism, just popularism.

Those fully enmeshed in genderism aren't going to give it up any time soon, but what I hope will come out of this is the general public, institutions etc finally realizing that those people are batshit crazy, backing away slowly, and mostly ignoring their screeching ragemonkey behavior going forward.

God I hope so YourVagesty. Maybe daylight hitting the nonsense was the best thing? Shame so many people have been hurt though.

I posted this on another thread but that thread has died a death I think...

I hope I'm not being overly optimistic but I think the tone is shifting. I had a read around online last night and this morning and 90% of what I'm seeing, from journalists, celebs and normal people is support for JK and condemnation of Daniel Radcliffe et al. Even LOJ was being put on his place last night (see Robert Webb's tweet and the thread that followed).

There are still vocal people on Twitter but who are they to dominate the debate? What are their qualifications, where's the social proof of their authority?

It reminds me, in a way, of the hysterical Corbynites the morning after the Tory landslide in December, still screeching that Corbyn was loved by most of the country, and that he was more popular etc. Demonstrably not - but their fury and conviction overruled their sensibilities. I reckon it's the same group, more or less. The bullying and hectoring far left.

Did a thread on the cyclist just disappear? (that was quick). We were discussing this:
archive.md/mwiDP
Which must be the reason for this from the cyclist's twitter:

Sue Perkins made a timely donation to women's aid.

Stephen Fry is pro trans. But may not be crass enough to bite the hand that probably paid for his holiday home.

I think he is TWAW but whatever his stance, the implication that he's rich because of his Potter work isn't accurate. He became a millionaire in his twenties from Me and My Girl and has earned loads from his own work ever since. Whereas Daniel Radcliffe has the lifestyle he has purely through having the role in JKR's creation.

If only they had know earlier, they could have exchange reading lists so much sooner.

many of the same people on fb who are screaming at jkr/women for being transphobic and exclusionary, prejudiced etc are the same people arguing very nicely that black lives matter and talking eloquently how all lives matter is not the point at this time.

Its just so tribal isn't it. Its also very strange that some of the white people being very vocal about BLM seemed to be quite happy with the status quo a fortnight ago.

Alison Moyet again:

"Feminism was never the fuel that propels violent men to murder unless that dead woman was a feminist.
Blaming women for Male violence is trench cowardice."

many of the same people on fb who are screaming at jkr/women for being transphobic and exclusionary, prejudiced etc are the same people arguing very nicely that black lives matter and talking eloquently how all lives matter is not the point at this time.

on my fb page all is fine, but when i ventured onto another it was all 'this kills' 'this is dangerous' and 'transwomen are getting murdered.because of her' i tentatively stuck my head in but was told to 'be careful' and then tagged in links from tra's all saying the same thing 'she's killing me' etc etc

I got quite a few likes for the JK essay, which I followed up with the boodleoops piece.

No attempts at educating me yet - there's one FB friend who usually can't resist shouting TWAW at me, & even he's not had a go.

Two years ago I used to get a howling mob - & quite a few people deleted me.

The tide is definitely turning.

One friend has posted something disagreeing with the Sun article, saying "whatever you think of JKR's views etc.", and she's had a few "I hate JKR's transphobic BS" responses, so I've posted Boodleoops's screen shots again, asking where the hate for trans people is in JKR's tweets. Makes me anxious to think what may have been written in response so not returning to FB today.

Oh, I also posted Suzanne Moore's piece for the Telegraph and got a few likes for that too. My fb is mostly middle aged women though.

Ricky Gervais didn’t explicitly mention JKR in his Friday night video but I felt that his whole ‘rant’ (his word) about hate was alluding to it.

I agree, but I think he was also making a wider point about everyone having to subscribe to a dogma, regardless of the issue.

I'm surprisingly disappointed in Ricky. I thought he got it and saw what was going on.

However I guess has a successful show on Netflix at the moment and has probably been ordered to keep quiet.

Yes...

And girl guides, NSPCC...

People are also unaware of what is going on in schools, or the guidance being given to many other children's and youth organisations. People really are oblivious.

Not for much longer if the Baroness has anything to do with it!

Is Greenwald possibly an example of a man using this issue to settle a score against a woman he already disliked?

Well done Evanna. That was genuinely very brave.

The cynical part of me suspects that the ones who will support / say nothing are the ones who didnt make millions off the series and now make money by doing the conventions, making appearances at the Universal Studios theme park, etc. So Lynch, the twins who played the Weasley twins, maybe Matthew Lewis (Neville).

@deepwatersolo totally agree with you. That's about the only issue I agree with her on and I'm sad Glen Greenwald has taken this stance as you said.