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Celeb supporters of jkr

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RyanBergarasTeeth · 12/06/2020 15:00

Can we have a thread on celebs that have come out with supportive messages for jk rowling? The ones i have seen so far:

Jonathan Ross (although a shit house scared of his daughters)
Robert webb
David baddiel
Kirsty Alsopp

Any others?

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Helmetbymidnight · 12/06/2020 18:32

"I have absolutely no problem taking you off this list if you can say that Magdalen Berns was a transphobe, and it is wrong of anyone to call a person who spewed this sort of hatred "brave.

He really is the witch-finder general.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/06/2020 18:31

Is he now the spokesman for Trans people in Ireland and self appointed organiser of pride?

Not just Ireland, surely, he is spokesman for the Transpeople the world over. Grin

Urghhh.

ProfessorSillyStuff · 12/06/2020 18:30

so could you guys write to your mp and ask them to vote for Amendment 84 so that misogyny would be recognised as a hate crime please? Then these abusers can be prosecuted, if they continue to address our lovely J.K in such a way.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 12/06/2020 18:29

Helmet

Yes his list of transphobes.

"I have absolutely no problem taking you off this list if you can say that Magdalen Berns was a transphobe, and it is wrong of anyone to call a person who spewed this sort of hatred "brave."

Is he now the spokesman for Trans people in Ireland and self appointed organiser of pride?

Lowhum · 12/06/2020 18:28

I don’t know how royalties work, but will any of the HP actors receive money if their image is taken off merchandise and tv?

Calledyoulastnightfromglasgow · 12/06/2020 18:28

I reckon many support her but are too afraid to say if.

I have always liked JK but like her more now. She is brave and principled.

It’s all over my FB and I can’t be arsed having fights with people. Which makes me a coward I guess.

Most people I have spoken to about it - friends - are in support of JK. This doesn’t mean any of us are anti-trans. But it does mean we need to stop being ridiculous in terms of the conversation/shutting down of debate.

Collidascope · 12/06/2020 18:28

I really admire Ian Dunt for that. He condemned the abuse in its own right, early on, rather than because it was useful in a vendetta against The Sun.
Good on him.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/06/2020 18:28

"I have absolutely no problem taking you off this list if you can say that Magdalen Berns was a transphobe, and it is wrong of anyone to call a person who spewed this sort of hatred "brave."

The guy is fucking deranged.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/06/2020 18:26

Wah, you've got to look at the fucking Aiden Comerford trying to harass Alison Moyet. What an arsehole.

I can't link it but its under his naughty list, I think.

merrymouse · 12/06/2020 18:23

I wouldn't mind if they disagreed - if they could just say threatening and insulting language is not acceptable

Maybe they are hoping that it will all die down and they don't want to fan the flames? I think if people start organising book burnings (literal or metaphoric) we will hear more.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 12/06/2020 18:22

I've read the pink news article, please don't anyone else click on it, the are doing this for clicks.
I saw on Glinners twitter earlier they have done 40 articles about JK in the last few days.

"I firmly stand with the trans community and echo the sentiments expressed by many of my peers,” he said.
Trans women are women. Trans men are men. We should all be entitled to live with love and without judgement.”

That's it, the rest is about Radcliffe.

Notahandmaid · 12/06/2020 18:17

A supporter:
Ian Dunt - political commentator and co-presenter of the Remainiacs podcast. One of the presenters mentioned transphobia in the same sentence as racism a few weeks ago and I thought 'great, not you lot too'.

He has 300,000 followers. He got piled on and I thought he might delete it but he hasn't.

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Notahandmaid · 12/06/2020 18:13

Not a supporter - Grint has fallen.

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/06/12/rupert-grint-harry-potter-jk-rowling-transgender-comments/

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Oxyiz · 12/06/2020 18:07

Fingers crossed that silence is telling.

God knows you could gather Woke Points by joining in.

Helmetbymidnight · 12/06/2020 18:07

Jennifer Saunders has been put on the hateful people list for retweeting Robert Webb. Grin

Ninkanink · 12/06/2020 18:04

Thank you to everyone mentioned here.

AbsintheFriends · 12/06/2020 18:01

yesterday Fern retweeted Frances Barber who wrote that JKR is an extraordinary women. The tweet contained a link to JKR’s piece.

That's encouraging chicken, thanks. I thought she had been on the Jeremy Vine show in the morning and parroted the 'be kind' line in a way that made it sound like she didn't see any problem with the erosion of women's spaces. I might have misunderstood or maybe she felt bad and decided to be a bit more courageous! She's put up with so much sexist shit it would surprise me if she didn't see it.

GeorginaEstonia · 12/06/2020 17:56

Minnie Driver

nettie434 · 12/06/2020 17:56

@Helmetbymidnight

I've got a real thing about Aidan Comerford. You know when people say someone makes their skin crawl - its that. He just gives me the heebie jeebies something chronic.

I think there's a LOT of support for JKR out there, I've been quite impressed.

Lissa Evans who wrote 'Their finest hour and a half' is it? is gc and she's a wonderful writer.

What bigger names would you like - and are they on social media?

I've been blocked by Aidan C on Twitter for ages. I assume he uses 'terf blocker' because I have never interacted with him. From what I remember he had quite a small following when he started tweeting about Graham Linehan and I think he realised he could get quite a lot of publicity by presenting himself as a trans ally.

I am surprised at the lack of support JKR has received from other authors. Surely literary Edinburgh is quite a connected world? I wouldn't mind if they disagreed - if they could just say threatening and insulting language is not acceptable

Cattenberg · 12/06/2020 17:45

Maybe I picked a bad moment to look at the replies to JKR on Twitter. But it was a cesspit of verbal abuse and calls for her to shut up. I didn’t see anyone actually address her points. I just wondered how many of of these people had actually read what JKR wrote.

Helen Lewis once wrote “the comments on any article about feminism justify feminism". Apparently, she wasn’t being entirely serious, but I think it’s generally true. It’s definitely true of the Daily Mail and the Daily Telegraph.

BlingLoving · 12/06/2020 17:43

I'd also like to see more politicians standing up on this.

BlingLoving · 12/06/2020 17:42

Robert Webb has demonstrated his intelligence and has written extensively about gender stereotypes. I value his opinion more.

Personally, so do I. But we're talking here about celebs who haven't stepped up to say the abuse is disgusting. Yes, I want younger celebs, and celebs who are massively high profile to do it because a lot of people who are just generally "woke" and aren't thinking are more likely to be following those celebs than they are Robert Webb or David Baddiel.

And also agree re newspapers. That's why the very insipid way in which they write about the abuse annoys me so much. If I hadn't seen the abuse for myself, the articles I have read would suggest that she's almost being a bit sensitive to the abuse. It's only when you read people telling her to "fucking such my transwoman cock" and similar, more aggressive/violent versions, that the abuse really sinks in.

IsAnybodyListening · 12/06/2020 17:42

A lot of celebrities, I would assume are too weak to support JK. By acknowledging the underlying truth of gender, that would automatically make them a target for perceived trans phobia.

If a woman tries to defend her actual truth and reality AS A WOMAN, and state that she is so, and a Trans 'woman' challenges this fact.....well, the ACTUAL woman becomes ridiculed and persecuted as most of us have seen.

If you are a man that states he is a Woman. POOF-MAGIC! he is one, because his magic balls and dick let him be whatever he wants.

Actual woman point out the utter ridiculousness of their gender being a suggestion at best, as though our actual history and identity can be moulded and even erased to accommodate a man, simply declaring that he is a woman, then being acknowledged a woman?!

Nope fuckity nope. It's like the Salem witch trials. Modern day persecution of women....for being an actual woman.

RyanBergarasTeeth · 12/06/2020 17:34

I noticed the david tennant facebook page posted a vid of him reading harry potter the day the jkr stuff started kicking off. I wondered if it was deliberate or not.

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