Sun headline and responses to it

I fucking hate the use of the word "slap" which conjures up images of kids squabbling and giving each other half hearted whacks

It's also perfect MRA fodder who will say "women slap their partners all the time, it's one rule for them" - as if it's the same. I think there's even a scene in Harry Potter where Hermione slaps Malfoy which I'm sure will be dragged out before long.

no worries- yeah, the same people who are happy to have any male id his way into womens refuges, changing rooms, sports etc, are quite angry at this. go figure!

Oh ok, my humble apologies Helmet.

I'm seeing it all over too

Dances I think you've misinterpreted Helmet's post - she said that she is seeing all over facebook other people saying "i disagree with her 'transviews' but i dont condone this".

Nice of you helmet. What about her vicious abusers from your side of the 'transviews'? Pure as the driven snow? Or only when they are publicly exposed as vicious abusers do you think it wise 'not to condone'

Working out that you are not on the 'right side of history' yet?

I fucking hate the use of the word "slap" which conjures up images of kids squabbling and giving each other half hearted whacks. If you are a woman who has ever been physically hurt or threatened by a man, you know that feeling of genuine terror and that sickening realization that this person could kill you.

I've spoken to many friends about the women's rights vs trans rights issue in the past and none of them have shown much interest. Then JKR spoke out and they saw the misogynistic vitriol piled on her for saying something so reasonable and they are all horrified. I've had endless messages from friends saying "Have you seen what's happening to JK Rowling?!"

The Sun headline is despicable but I do believe that it will drive further support for her and her position. Women across the country, who never much cared about this issue, are having their eyes opened.

seeing all over fb: i disagree with her 'transviews' but i dont condone this.

And yet it's still a terf plot

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thank you for expressing that so well, chateau, yes.

They haven't confronted her husband in a valiant attempt to defend her honour they have sought out this person and given him the front page when JK has kept her life private for reasons explained in the letter and the paper has now diminished belittled and minimised the life long effects of abuse. The use of the word slap trivialises what happened and the picture of them together paints them as a young couple who look just like many of us did in our twenties. JK's daughter has to face the knowledge that the Sun choose not to respect her privacy and that of her mother. They have sought out and most likely paid this man and centred him in the story when JK is so much more than this part of her life. Ingrained misogyny.

It's interesting that Owen feels he can care about JK's feelings regarding her husband hitting her now. As always for him, vulnerable women are only something he'll think of when he wants to use them as battering ram against a bigger enemy - in this case, The Sun.
He's no different to the racists who pretend to care about victims of grooming gangs.

As much as it sickens me, I’m prepared to give the benefit of the doubt here: I’d hope that the intention of this cover is to stimulate further support for JKR

why do you think The Sun would be motivated to do that?- it would be a really odd thing for any paper to do- never mind one like the Sun.

Againsts Guidance

What an irony that some of the most vociferous opponents of JK Rowlings' 'transphobia' did not even begin to engage with her arguments that women experiencing domestic abuse might need women only refuges are now condemning The Sun. The death/rape threats she has received are chilling so why don't they condemn the people making those rather than a paper which at least claimed to have 'confronted' her husband?

I personally see no moral difference between The Sun's coverage and the responses of Redmayne, Radcliffe and Watson who must have known they were fanning the flames, not contributing to a debate.

The fact that OJ has had to publicly ram an entire humble pie down his throat in response to this is no coincidence.
I am furious about that shit. He's basically said that other people should reign it in, after he incited, celbrated and inflamed it it in the first place, Jane Clare Jones on Twitter is asking for help with examples of his misogyny and hypocrisy which she'll compile for a letter to the Guardian.

If you think about it almost all news stories about male violence against women center the perp, even celebrities. Most of the time the victim's name isn't even mentioned. She is his girlfriend, or his wife, or his neighbor.
Once you start to notice it you will see it everywhere.

10th rule of misogyny: The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad.

Abused women and those who help them are 'the enemy'.

The Sun's agenda is to sell newspapers, like most other newspapers it was far more interested in the domestic violence than the trans stuff. For them, it's just gossip about a celebrity.

I must say, this world in which everyone is too frightened to say what they think and everyone has to play games is pretty confusing

I'm not sure what loud condemnations of the Sun mean in this context - they could mean either support for Rowling, or the opposite. Maybe they sometimes mean one and sometimes the other

I must admit I did face palm at the stupid at that point.

And that point was made by a woman, FFS!

I’m sure there’s a ‘Rules of Misogyny’ that covers this, or maybe several.

‘Abused women and their allies’?!

Surely the only people who aren’t an ally to abused women are those who abuse them 🧐