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Any more new recruits?

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mcduffy · 11/06/2020 17:53

My DH was slightly startled when I burst into tears last night when I read JKR's essay whilst our DC were watching a post-dinner film. I sent him the link to it and I think I've created a (GC) monster. He's spent the last 24 hours sending it to all his friends individually and asking them for their views (including counterpoints). He's just reported back to me that the best they can come up with is sex being "assigned" at birth, gender identity being innate and "a fucking unicorn".
I hate the "DH says" posts usually but just thought I'd relay that this radicalised-by-mumsnet feminist has doubled your money Grin and men in their early 30s across England are having to deal with some awkward questions from a tenacious friend!
Anyone else have any converts?

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justanotherneighinparadise · 11/06/2020 20:13

Scot I think I’d end up being really insolent and discussing my cunt a lot just to piss him off.

My DP Is a fabulous man. Completely understands my feelings and listens to my rants she. Something triggers me. He also rather enjoys the use of the gender neutral toilets on the third floor. No one else uses them apparently and they’re nice and fresh.

Collidascope · 11/06/2020 20:12

I converted my partner a few years ago - on the same day I realised myself how sexist it all was. He has a beard too so that must be bonus points.

AsTreesWalking · 11/06/2020 20:06

I read my DH Daniel's little note today - his immediate response was how dare he, what a narcissist!

BarbieandKenBruce · 11/06/2020 20:05

Talked about it with my DH for the first time last night. Don't think I 'converted' him as he was pretty much there, just hadn't had to think about it or crystallise the arguements in his mind. He's mainly shocked at the arguement of the TRAs etc and there was lots of 'people don't really say that though do they?' 'but nobody really thinks that?' kind of things. He also thought no one would lose their job over expressing a GC belief. I still don't think it's really sunk in how insidious it's all got at one point he dismissed it as 'just some people on twitter'.
He's a psychiatrist and some of his patients have gender dysphoria so he's not unaware at all. I think he takes people as he finds them and tries to help them feel better in themeselves without politics coming into it.

JKRowlingTransExplosion · 11/06/2020 19:39

I’ve converted loads, including my (male) partner, my ex, my cousin and sundry others. I also know several GC people at my former workplace (BBC), but they naturally keep it quiet unless sure they’re in like-minded company.

MujeresLibres · 11/06/2020 18:27

@scot like this person? Unfortunately there are some bad apples within the cohort.
www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/832849/warning-as-transgender-sex-offender-placed-in-womens-hostel/amp/

mcduffy · 11/06/2020 18:11

Sorry Scot that's tough.

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NonnyMouse1337 · 11/06/2020 18:10

That's sounds tough, talkingdeadscot. I'd feel quite upset too. Flowers

talkingdeadscot · 11/06/2020 18:06

Wish I could say the same. My lovely DH who I've been with for 10 years is a lost cause. It's been a real shock for me and shaken who I thought he was. Admittedly we're getting on a bit (me 58 him 61) but he is a raging socialist, anti racist etc and not just in his head, this is how he lives his life and also, I thought, a feminist.

According to him if a man feels as though they're a woman then they won't have been socialised the same way as a man. Therefore, they're perfectly safe to use women only spaces. Also, transmen have to use the female spaces because, you know, male violence. If we, as a society, provide a third set of facilities then we (as a society) are ghettoising trans people.

Therefore, it's perfectly reasonable for women to budge over because a)transwomen are no threat and b) transpeople shouldn't be ghettoised.

He know's my history with abuse/violence with men but nothing can persuade him that women shouldn't give up their spaces.

During this discussion he also referred to me as a cis woman!! He won't be doing that again but I think he believes that as he doesn't mind being referred to as a cis man then what's the issue.

I'm so, so disappointed. It's not my job to educate him but between him and my grown up daughter I feel like the last 50 years of my life didn't happen or means nothing.

They will never persuade me though that my sex doesn't matter and the language used to describe my experiences needs changing. Fuck em

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 18:05

I managed when I wasn't trying to a right-on type.

His little daughter had just taken up gymnastics it that must've been with the rules changes to allow boys to change with the girls and compete against them.

He came wandering through the living room (on a visit) just as I was reading the newspaper report out the DH and he just switched. Just like that. I wasn't even trying...

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