Why have mixed toilets become so popular now?

Our local shopping centre has baby changing facilities with a massive glass sliding door on the entrance so basically one side of the room is completely see through. There is also a toilet cubicle in the room to one side with a floor to ceiling door and sink inside.

Outside there are a line of sinks to wash your hands after changing baby.

Baby changing facilities should be available in both male and female toilets.

Many years ago when I was teen Top Shop changed their toilets to unisex, there were cubicles of toilets and a giant round sink outside in the middle of the floor with loads of taps around it and a pedal underneath each tap to run it.
That trend didn't last long.

What about the safety of kids in all of this.

Ah. Well.

Activist political lobby to women worried about safety to women and children of facilities with males in: never happens, are you calling all males perverts, has it happened to you personally (if so it was only a few times and it's wrong to judge others by one/three/twelve bad apples), you're paranoid and need help to get over your fear of people with penises, most women and children don't think there's a problem, if something happens you can always call the police.

Also activist political lobby: TW cannot possibly use facilities with males in because way too dangerous and scary, do you want us to be assaulted or too scared to go in?

You've missed the underpinning logic here which is that males matter, and non males don't.

[quote BlueBlouse]@sashagabadon I was talking about the little 6 year old girl[/quote]
But the 6 year old is with here dad? She can go with her dad into the mens and stay with him and he can instruct her not to wander off. My dd did that for years with her dad until she turned 8 and then she went in the female loos where she was perfectly safe.
6 year old girls grow up and when they do, female loos keep them safer
Yes anything can happen to anyone but female loos are safer for women and girls. Anyone claiming anything otherwise is talkung nonsense (and they know it too, hence using myra hindley to back up their pov)

What about the safety of kids in all of this.

[quote ShouldWeChangeTheBulb]@LillianBland
No not at all, I was just chipping in as many previous posters had said no women prefer them.
I think a combination of single sex toilets a urinal and a mixed sex space would best suit everybody.[/quote]
I totally agree, but unfortunately there are those that demand that toilets are mixed sex or that that certain make bodied people should have access to female toilets, because of how they ‘feel’.

[quote BlueBlouse]@sashagabadon because some women can be a treat to a little girl. Women are statistically more likely to kill children than men, because they have more access to them. Women can also act to lure away children for men, like Myra Hindley did.

Or she could come out of the toilets earlier than her dad, and so get lured off by a strange man whilst he's still having a wee or washing his hands. So it's not as black and white as "she was in a women's toilet so she was definitely safe".[/quote]
Silly argument. In no way is a 14 year old girl MORE safe in a gender neutral loo than in a female one.
It is about minimising risks and female loos are safer for women and girls.
Using myra hindley shows how weak this argument is.
Any examples from the last 20 years of females luring teen girls or pre teen girls away from female loos for sexual purposes or any other purpose for that matter?
( not that myra hindley actually did use loos for this purpose)
Female loos are safer, it is unarguable by anyone sensible

Women are statistically more likely to kill children than men, because they have more access to them. Their own children! They don’t go lifting children off the street and murdering them. Stop trying to imply that women are as likely to harm a strange child as much as a man. That’s utter shite and you know it.

The reason those women are known, is because it’s exceedingly rare for women to be involved in the kidnapping and assault/murder of children. Male abusers/murders are so common that their names are soon forgotten.

It has been proven time and time again that mixed sex areas, that were traditionally female, increase the risk of voyeurism, assaults and sexual abuse of children and women, by MEN. Not women, men.

@LillianBland
No not at all, I was just chipping in as many previous posters had said no women prefer them.
I think a combination of single sex toilets a urinal and a mixed sex space would best suit everybody.

They are becoming increasingly common at universities, I can’t imagine many women on campus feel comfortable speaking out.

They are also open plan (eg free standing sinks in the middle, toilets all around the outside) and very bright and well lit, so theres no dark corners or hidden areas for people to be threatened in, as from the door to the toilets you can see the entire room. They also have staff doing regular cleans (and thus checks) there too. Cubicles have solid tiled (brick?) Walls between them, and floor to ceiling doors on all cubicles so even the most determined peepers would find it impossible and it adds privacy by muffling almost all toileting sounds.
Although this is in a food place where it is mostly 18+ with parents occasionally bringing their child and single sex toilets are available.

Last year DH and I were in a posh department store in London Liberty's and DH needed to go. Found the facilities were mixed sex. DH used the facilities but was very uncomfortable that he had to share the space with a woman and her primary aged daughter, even though the loos were enclosed.

I prefer mixed toilets if they are properly set up with doors down to the floor and a sink.
I have a young son and I don’t feel safe letting him go on his own to male toilets in some places.
Also mixed toilets get rid of some awkwardness for people who do not conform to gender stereotypes including women who look male.

Also to add.. the mixed toilets also have floor to ceiling walls and doors and solid walls between cubicles compared to the bog standard cubicles in the sex specific toilets. Which I think has been done brilliantly as it makes it impossible for someone to be spied on, and has a layer of comfort as for example people in the room or in neighbouring toilets couldn't for example hear a person changing a sanitary pad. So I'm glad it was so well thought out as it makes the shared toilets comfortable to use and removes some of the worries. If people are still uncomfortable then they can use the single sex toilets.

Locally to me, any places that have mixed toilets either have singular toilets like disabled, or have mixed toilets whilst still having male and female toilets in the same building and usually the same area as the mixed. Which tbh I applaud as it's in essence a "third" space.

I went to a comedy night last year and the venue only had mixed sex facilities. The queue wasn't from by the sinks either, there were men and women right outside the cubicle. I felt very uncomfortable changing my sanitary wear when I could see a man's shoes under the cubicle door.

They're a cheap solution to the push by activist political extremist lobbies that males must have access to female spaces, without all the headaches of who is allowed where and with what label and degree of transitions and females objecting to it. Female people pointed out that this would happen.

No, most male and female people don't want this, certainly no females were clamouring to be allowed to pee with men because it was so unfair, and it will actively exclude many females, but nobody asked them.

Actually, many TW, particularly those who choose to name themselves as transsexual (India Willoughby I think has gone on record talking about this?) is that the desired thing was to be using female only spaces with females. Mixed sex takes that away.

So nobody's happy now, but businesses and organisations can't be moaned at for being uninclusive, or be vulnerable to having to try and police the males going into female facilities or to legal claims when it all goes wrong.