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Emma Watson no longer believes in women

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JGACC · 10/06/2020 23:01

Emma Watson has now tweeted in support of trans activists. I can't believe it.

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RuffleCrow · 11/06/2020 18:15

I don't think any of us would mind them disagreeing with her if it wasn't so painfully obvious they were lying through their teeth.

WarmestRegards · 11/06/2020 18:15

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hypernormal · 11/06/2020 18:11

I feel that she has embarrassed herself with her remarks, but I will continue to say that it is not OK for anyone on this thread to attack her directly.
I do understand it's important to maintain the moral high ground, but this is a forum. I'm not releasing a public statement insulting Emma Watson, this is an outpouring of anger. Emma Watson is a very privileged woman with a huge platform, particularly on women's issues. She has stabbed in the back the woman who gave her all of her privilege, when that woman has written a heartfelt plea for understanding, and opened up about the domestic and sexual abuse she has suffered. Emma Watson's response is 'fuck her, fuck all domestic abuse victims, fuck raped women, fuck homeless women, fuck disabled and elderly women in need of care, fuck lesbians, 'cos I need to make sure Emma Watson stays popular'. She is beneath contempt. I will not make any excuses for her with all her expensive education and her 29 million reach Twitter megaphone to broadcast her views to. Where is her generosity to her fellow women, and the woman who made her career?

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 18:09

I guess you can disagree with someone who has given you your career - but their reasons are just so pathetic, spineless, heartless and weasely.

DandyMandy · 11/06/2020 18:03

These people throwing the woman who gave them a career under the bus make me sick. All about the bandwagon. According to their logic, I could wake up tomorrow morning and say I'm a man. I won't make any effort to look male or have a penis, but I can still identify that way right?? Maybe then I'd be paid fairly, able to walk alone at night without the fear of being raped or killed and revel in my male privilege.

But oh no, I can't do that because maleness is never up for grabs. Man/maleness is never changed and is allowed to stay the same, but femaleness is always up for the taking apparently.

RuffleCrow · 11/06/2020 18:02

@StrangeLookingParasite they're all just thrilled to have found a way to piss off a sort of proxy distant-and benevolent mother figure imo. She created their world, now they get to trash it. They need to grow the fuck up. They're all over 30 ffs.

merrymouse · 11/06/2020 17:48

This is a strange thing for Vogue to share:

www.vogue.co.uk/news/article/emma-watson-books-people-of-colour?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1591359725

"The 11 Books Emma Watson Is Reading As Part Of Her Commitment To Anti-Racism & Self-Education"

Couldn't they find somebody better to quote on racism?

To be fair, I think this is Vogue doing lazy "somebody tweeted something" journalism.

But its still very odd and EW has retweeted it.

EarlofEggMcMuffin · 11/06/2020 17:44

@MrGHardy if you read what I said fully, you will see that I did not defend what she said.

What I did say was, that in common with everyone else on this thread, she is allowed to make mistakes even as a rich UN Ambassador.

I feel that she has embarrassed herself with her remarks, but I will continue to say that it is not OK for anyone on this thread to attack her directly.

Her looks have been commented on, her "stupidity" and someone said "eat sh*t"."

I will defend anyone against that type of personal abuse.

Attack the error not the person.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 17:44

By being insufferably right on with regards to just the causes du jour? Not thinking for herself as to which causes she deeply cares about - she is merely playing 'cause top trumps' .

she reminds me of the supermodels who posed naked for PETA ('I'd rather go naked than wear fur') then were next seen sashaying down the catwalk in furs. These were rich women who could afford to take a stand and choose alternative jobs. The words were just put ino their mouths (and I assume they got paid for it).

Goosefoot · 11/06/2020 17:40

Hew whole twitter account seems to be her sooking up to groups of which she is not a member if to in some way make her look like a 'good person'.

I think a lot of people with her background, who have a social conscience at all, have been really impressed with the idea that they need to use their public role for the good of those who are less fortunate. That's the only way they can make up for their own good fortune and privilege.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 17:37

But that was really really funny and always worth a retweet.

Dances · 11/06/2020 17:30

She is retweeting that Andrew Carter idiot. Remember this one, him trying to bluff Rhona Hotchkiss, ex Prison Governor of Cortonvale, Scotland's only female prison?

mobile.twitter.com/coollist/status/1271103151190487042/photo/1

OvaHere · 11/06/2020 17:29

@Lordfrontpaw

Hew whole twitter account seems to be her sooking up to groups of which she is not a member if to in some way make her look like a 'good person'.
There's quite a bit of evidence that child actors, especially those who receive a huge dose of fame often struggle with various issues in adulthood.

Perhaps there's a sense of kinship with people who have identity issues coupled with learned crowd pleasing behaviours.

I'm just surmising here because I don't know the HP kids personally but the life of a famous child actor is probably not one grounded in everyday reality.

Ninkanink · 11/06/2020 17:28

Didn’t the NSPCC have some rather interesting (read: disturbing) opinions on online safeguarding of children/parental controls? Sorry my memory fails me...anyone care to fill me in on the details again...?

merrymouse · 11/06/2020 17:26

"In fact, we literally teach small children to be wary of strangers offering candy or puppies BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT BE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE"

These days we are more likely to say that Hufflepufflover05 might not be who they say they are.

Or at least we were - according to current orthodoxy is is still OK to suggest that someone you meet on line might not be another teenage girl?

Dances · 11/06/2020 17:23

Josie Long acting all but hurt because Glinner has spotted her tweeting TRA bollocks. Talking about violence at home as a child. Yes me too Josie like many others. There's a good reason to keep Rape crisis centres and DV refuges female only. By all means go help set up Male and/or trans ones too. Not throw abused women under the bus.

andyoldlabour · 11/06/2020 17:18

WellThankyouAJPTaylor

"In fact, we literally teach small children to be wary of strangers offering candy or puppies BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT BE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE"

And that is exactly why this situation is so dangerous, that one tiny minority group seems to be excepted from all due diligence and safeguarding concerns.
I call it - the Aimee Challenor effect.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 17:04

Hew whole twitter account seems to be her sooking up to groups of which she is not a member if to in some way make her look like a 'good person'.

MrGHardy · 11/06/2020 17:01

"The personal attacks on her, leave it out please.

She is a young-ish woman, who is allowed to make mistakes like everyone else.

She is working in an industry that is white male dominated and no doubt, has to make compromises on that basis.
I do. I don't really dicuss this in real life, as it may have consequences for my work.

No cause is helped, by diminishing yourself to the level of the opposition. If they go low we go high."

Emma Watson is rich enough never to work again. She is a UN Women Ambassador.

If she wanted she could actually do something, but she chooses to go for woke points and you defend that?

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 16:48

oops:

Yasmin alibhai-brown
@y_alibhai
#standwithjkrowling back off you hyenas. Misogyny dressed up as righteousness stinks. No Body Shop products henceforth for me either.

Lordfrontpaw · 11/06/2020 16:48

Ive lost the 'grown ups have spoken' thread... another one to add:

GivesNoFox · 11/06/2020 16:10

@PamDenick

Yes, GivesNoFox.

You are right,
Trained journalists have seen through the double speak and for that I thank them.
It just shows the danger of a tweet. Skim read and react. Considered, measured thoughtful responses are few and far between.

True, however not all journalists I'm afraid, a lot of them are still caught up in the woke. Papers like the independent are running a anti-JKR bias in their reporting, however their idea of journalism and newsworthy stories are so often ridiculous that I have a hard time often seeing them as an serious newspaper. For example, Watson, Radcliffe and Redmayne's responses were all posted under a 'Breaking news' tag on their social media. Hmm As if their response is somehow so world changing and of the utmost importance that it need to garner maximum attention.😅

Thankfully, like I said prviously, the majority of the comments were rightfully taking the piss out of both the articles and the actors featured while supporting JKR.Grin

The majority of the public who live in the real world and have ACTUAL problems to deal with (Pandemic related and otherwise) have no time or patience for this ideology shit.

PamDenick · 11/06/2020 15:57

Yes, GivesNoFox.

You are right,
Trained journalists have seen through the double speak and for that I thank them.
It just shows the danger of a tweet. Skim read and react. Considered, measured thoughtful responses are few and far between.

GivesNoFox · 11/06/2020 15:48

The majority of non-twitter comment sections I've seen regarding Watson, Radcliffe and Redmayne's responses, including the ones for lefty newspapers heavily favour JKR and common sense. Twitter is truly a woke bubble it seems.

madcatladyforever · 11/06/2020 15:44

Unfortunately like so many young women these days she has just been brainwashed. One day they will wake up and realise that all their rights that were fought for hard by my generation have gone.