Emma Watson no longer believes in women

Yes @snowqu33n. Before all this blew up, DR was saying on Desert Island Discs what a safe and protective bubble working on the HP films was. It sounds like the team in charge were really keen to make sure there was proper safeguarding in place and that they actually got to have childhoods. Learning the lessons of previous child stars, I suppose.

It's ironic because i felt really glad when he said that (and still do) because you hear so many horror stories about what can happen to kids (and women) in the entertainment industry. However, we on the outside are painfully aware of the way EW was regarded by the paedophilic contingent of men "out here" from day one. I wonder how much of her "magical thinking" (pardon the pun) might be a way of shielding herself from the true depths to which male people will sink. If I had her money I might try and cocoon myself from that sick reality too.

We, as women, are just not fucking shouting loudly enough

We don't need to shout loudly though. We know we are speaking the truth. They shout loudly and use threats because the fantasy they have constructed is fragile and is destroyed by facts.

I feel like EW has led a safe and protected existence. I can’t really relate to her. Wish they had picked a bi-racial actress for Hermione.

Be that as it may; everyone is assuming these actors’ social media comments are written by them when it’s obviously the PR department’s job.

Responding in the interests of the celeb’s brand, which includes large numbers of people and products such as movies relying on his/her/their appeal to a certain demographic for their livelihoods.

Eg: If you watch Carpool Karaoke with Adele, she says she (Adele) doesn’t have the passwords to her own Twitter account in case she posted something after a few drinks. (Love Adele, btw)

This TRA rhetoric and trans ideology is so fucking destructive.

A FB group I am in, that was for people who liked a particular fantasy author, went apocalyptic in the last 2 days. Someone posted about JKR, calling her a terf, and it caused arguments. It was reported.
Admins posted to ask people not to use terf because it's used as a slur.
That thread went up like a fucking rocket. The abusive language was spectacular - but it was all trans and trans-supporters doing the abuse. They then had the gall to say that they "no longer felt safe" - but they didn't give a flying fuck about the WOMEN in the group, many of whom are abuse survivors because a huge percentage of women are anyway, but also many turn to fantasy as an escape from their real life.
So it's apparently ok for women to lose their "safe space" and be shouted at, called terf scum, transphobic, and in need of "education" - but woe betide anyone mentioning that JKR's words weren't actually transphobic - they need to get out or risk being punched/slapped/abused because TRANS matters.

We, as women, are just not fucking shouting loudly enough. The TRAs are shouting, screaming, abusing, threatening (verbally and physically) and they are being heard far more than women who are not doing the same thing.

PS to my post above: gender ideology is in fact the absolute opposite of yogic teaching. Yoga teaches that our true self is neither male not female, that these are just a mental accumulation of learnt tendencies, attributes. So, a non-binary, (or, to put it into yogic terms, a non-dualistic) self stripped of such attributes -- that's the goal.

Both m and f identities have to be completely abandoned accordingly.

Thus it would be utterly counterproductive to actually cling for dear life to a new, opposite, "identity". Utterly insane, in fact! Any Yoga teacher worth his or her salt would tell you that, and teach you how to let go of that "identity".

And at the same time, you learn to deal adequately with actual reality, including your body.

And you certainly don't go around making a show of it, talking about how special and non-binary you are.

Emma Watson is abusing her position as UN Women's Ambassador.
That is all I have to say about her.

hoodathunkit:

She is a yoga teacher

She does mindfulness mediation

She has been in therapy following a break up

She has been on a silent meditation retreat lasting several days

I have to take issues with this. THESE are no reason to be woke -- quite the opposite!
It is actually when I started Yoga at the tender age of 19 that I finally began to find a way out, a refuge.
Meditation (I don't know anything about "mindfulness meditation", I think it's just a commercialised fad) authentic meditation, as it is supposed to be taught, would actually wake her up entirely if she did it properly.

The very foundation of the spiritual aspect of Yoga is to abandon fake identities and find an inner strength and balance as well as independence from outer influences.

I was a Yoga teacher right up until my second child was born, when I was 40. It's a fantastic practice and I've said before here, if I were a young mother and my child demonstrated a risk of turning trans, I'd immediately whisk him-her off to an authentic Yoga retreat.
Nothing in my life has kept me so strong and mentally healthy and independent as much as my practice -- over 45 years now.

I'm really sad that young enthusiastic but ignorant people have so tarnished the actual benefits of Yoga so as to relegate it into the realms of woo.

I didn't know EW was into all this, but if it just means her practice is as shallow as it comes.

So she says Trans people are who they say they are
... A small child could destroy that reasoning. In fact, we literally teach small children to be wary of strangers offering candy or puppies BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT BE WHO THEY SAY THEY ARE

This is what I find mindboggling. I mean, this kind of reasoning is so simplistic, so juvenile, so bloody dangerous.
When I was a young woman eager for approval and, yes, love, I often fell for young men spinning me lies in order to get into my knickers. I fell for it, for their words, for the act they were putting on for truly selfish reasons. They cared not a whit for me. I was a trusting, innocent young girl who longed for nothing more than to be loved. With age I learned to see through the lies and the acting-nice of men and basically lost my automatic trust -- but now I can ALWAYS spot the phonies. I have an instinct, which is something that really only comes with age and experience. But it's important!

I now understand a lot better why back in the day girls were not allowed to go out unchaperoned with men. It was the older women, whose job is to protect: they KNEW.

So, mindboggling as it is, I can understand why EW is still at the blinded stage of "believing what people say they are". And yes, I can forgive her for believing TWAW is the only kind thing to do and that we must never be mean to TW, we must see their suffering and care for their feelings, because I know it's the ignorance of youth speaking there, a longing to be good and loving. I was like that once; very caring towards men. I get it.

(Those saying she is far too old to still be that silly: I was 38 when I finally woke up, and it was one particularly horrible experience with a two-faced man that was the final straw. After that: no man, until I met my husband. And even since he died: no man, ever again.)

What I cannot understand is her disloyalty to JKR. I might have been young, trusting, and stupid, but I was loyal and trustworthy to a fault and EW's betrayal is something I cannot get my mind around. I would have been eaten up with guilt within the hour and gone grovelling to the person I'd betrayed begging for forgiveness.

It does not speak in their favour that they do not recant. That is not kindness at all.

It certainly is.

That’s an interesting question.

I meant: do you also think trans is an act?

Oh hang on I meant drag isnt trans.

Is it.

Dats what I said...

Trans not drag.

that self ID is a straight forward solution.

Yes - it’s not a straightforward or good solution.

What drag? It is an act. My sister used to perform (drag king). She knows she is a woman and was playing a role.

Do you think it’s all an act?

Against what?

Against believing that there is no issue for females, and that self ID is a straight forward solution.

Against quietly, secretly removing female rights out of sight of the general public.

For females who have been writing to everyone possible and saying, hang on, this approach really, really won't work for people born female and will return us to exclusion, oppression, remove our equality, remove even our language and legal right to talk about the issues specific to having been born female - this has been kind of a big issue and it's a relief to see the world start to show signs of hearing.

Wouldn't you say if you're interested in equality and social justice that this is a good thing?

I’d like to say I am accepting of all. I used to go to drag shows as a 20 something. How we laughed.

Right. So ‘trans people’ are ok so long as you’re having a good laugh at a spectacle.
You crack on luv.

Community midwife stormed out of the room, yelling, "If a man has major abdominal surgery they keep him in hospital for a week, on bed rest for 3 weeks and give him hardcore drugs but a woman after a c-section must look after a newborn and survive on paracetamol!?"

I got the drugs!

Oh Bling She sounds wonderful.

The tide has already turned.

Against what?
Trans people?
Self ID?
The GRA?

@RuffleCrow I am sorry to hear that.

There are few midwives from either of DCs' birth I'd recognise in the street - it was all such a blur, not because they weren't kind - but that woman will be fixed in my mind eye forever and I won't ever forget her name either. She was brilliant. She was an older midwife, with no children of her own, but I've never felt so looked after and cared for as a woman or experienced that level of empathy for motherhood from anyone even though on the surface we had little in common.

I’m proud to be a woman.
I am nurturing and caring.
I’d like to say I am accepting of all. I used to go to drag shows as a 20 something. How we laughed.
I spend a lot of time with teenage girls in a professional capacity.
I will not let their rights be eroded.
I will not 20 something women tell me that a human born XY can choose to become XX. Allow them to dress as they like, love who they like, feel whatever they like but they do not physically become the same as me, with the same advantages, disadvantages, health needs and lived experiences.
HOW DARE THEY??? HOW DARE THEY???
And yes, Emma Watson, you may be 30 but I’m making allowances for your immaturity due to your strange upbringing.