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The Body Shop has fallen

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Cismyfatarse1 · 10/06/2020 19:05

Just seen this on Twitter.

For those who like their Ginger Shampoo, can I suggest MooGoo.

Also, Aveeno is a good replacement for their Shea butter.

Other thoughts welcome. Feel free to suggest other ideas.

The Body Shop has fallen
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Pluckedpencil · 10/06/2020 21:48

They've clearly left someone very junior and immature in charge of social media. Marketing 101 is to have cogent and coherent company principles, messages and vision, and never deviate from those. Positive posts, interesting facts etc. This is a snide bullying attempt. It baffles me how many hours big business puts into printed media, and then they just vomit all over their Twitter page.

BlackForestCake · 10/06/2020 21:47

You have kids? How did you know between you and your partner which one of you was going to get pregnant?

MonsteraCheeseplant · 10/06/2020 21:47

Katy, you're full of shit. Show us where JKR has bullied trans people? You'll have NOTHING. But she has been treated MUCH worse.

214 · 10/06/2020 21:46

I'm getting myself in knots here trying not to offend anyone and any section of society. I will say that if anyone of any gender identified at birth, or self-identified at any other time, wants to fight for the night to menstruate, I would just caution them to be mindful of what they wish for.

Seasidetrains · 10/06/2020 21:46

'gender (not sure why rowling doesn't want to use that word)

Probably because she was talking about sex? So why would she use a word that isn't what she's talking about?

What a very odd comment.'

seems very odd to me to define people entirely by their body parts, but each to their own...

Seasidetrains · 10/06/2020 21:45

'sex is real' just doesn't seem to mean much to me. how do you decide what sex is defined by? who's a woman? is it people who have a womb? my grandmother doesn't. is it women who have periods? my daughter and my mum don't. is it people with breasts? i am flat chested, do i count? etc. i just hate the thought that woman hood is something to be policed and decided rather than an opportunity for experssion.

i have kids of both genders and watching them grow and experiment with identities has been such an eye-opener. i feel really strongly that society should outgrow this idea of male/female as a binary. i definitely think that there are masculine and feminine energies but i don't think that they necessarily correspond to body parts, and i think that society would be a lot happier if people were allowed to decide how much of each energy they identify with.

Ninkanink · 10/06/2020 21:43

Yes because ‘human rights’ are all about male rights, apparently...I must have missed that memo.

It is not phobic to state biological fact.

It is not phobic to protect women’s and girls’ spaces and safeguard their legal rights and protections.

It is not phobic to state that only women and girls menstruate, and that men and boys do not. It is biological fact.

And to whoever asked, JK talks about sex not gender because the two are not the same thing.

Shinesweetfreedom · 10/06/2020 21:43

I thought when I read the headline it meant they have gone out of business.....er I guess they just have now

ibisred · 10/06/2020 21:43

Thanks for being this to my attention. Not buying from them again

PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock · 10/06/2020 21:42

@Justanotherlurker

Let us not pretend there was any way of a prominent woman who dared to say anything remotely gender critical avoiding any of this, though. The response still would've been the same if she'd never said anything to anyone before now.

You are trying to use the same progressive IDPOL stack that has made JK being hoist by her own pertard through, the inevitable purity spiral/left eating itself is as old as time.

The minute people started using those books as comparison to real world politics should have been a warning, the fact she interjected herself into this twitter sphere style politics and retconned a lot of her books to appeal to the crowd and not just say they are kids books considering she has 'fuck you money' and ironically not really like locally is a bad play not only on her part but those who make political points via HP memes.

The fact that you seem to think it is because she is a successful woman and not step back is why this will not end, your part of the problem.

Maybe not even particularly successful, just prominent. But to be clear here, are you actually arguing that her comments wouldn't have attracted any of this attention if she hadn't ever previously commented, that this sort of nonsense is reserved for left wing women? Because if so, there's a few right wing GC women who'd no doubt be delighted to share their experiences with you.
Fairenuff · 10/06/2020 21:42

If you don't see sex you can't see sexism.

Jkslays · 10/06/2020 21:42

Julie Bindel Grin

The Body Shop has fallen
MrsFogi · 10/06/2020 21:41

In case anyone would like to let him know that they will not be spending any money in The Body Shop again the CEO can be contacted here: [email protected]

nancyrosoe · 10/06/2020 21:41

@StealthNinjaMum

FFS. I am sick of these bloody companies throwing their main customer base under a bus.

Dear Body Shop, I will not be buying from you again.

The Body Shop is owned by Natura & Co, which also owns Avon and Aesop.
Willow2017 · 10/06/2020 21:39

Phew, I thought the Body Shop had gone into administration or something, not that they were standing up for human rights.
I like their products

Since when was a large company who employs huge numbers of women, whose customer base is mainly women, and who claim to be anti abuse of women, attacking a single woman online who has survived domestic abuse and poverty and is receiving death threats been 'standing up for human rights'?

CheerfuIPotato · 10/06/2020 21:39

😂😂😂😂😂 @ thé idea that knowing sex is real is small minded 😂😂😂😂😂

Honestly it’s hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂

TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 10/06/2020 21:39

i just think her view about 'sex being real' is very small minded

Are you saying sex isn't real?

gender (not sure why rowling doesn't want to use that word)

Probably because she was talking about sex? So why would she use a word that isn't what she's talking about?

What a very odd comment.

TooOldForSims · 10/06/2020 21:38

*exactly

TooOldForSims · 10/06/2020 21:37

@Seasidetrains

'So taking the piss out of a woman who has just written about sexual abuse is who you are?'

i'm not taking the piss out of jk rowling, i just think her view about 'sex being real' is very small minded and will validate discrimination against people who don't feel comfortable with the gender (not sure why rowling doesn't want to use that word) that they were born into.

not sure why people need to police identities so much. gender is more fluid than society has admitted up until this point. that's changing and i'm really glad about it.

it goes without saying that it's brave of jk rowling to speak out about the abuse she suffered. horrifying. but i don't see why it justifies her position on trans rights.

So you don't agree that sex is real?

Also what exactlt is her position on trans rights?

Lordfrontpaw · 10/06/2020 21:37

Sex isn’t real then - really? What makes you think that?

teabaseddiet · 10/06/2020 21:36

I've emailed the body shop. I'm hopping mad

TooOldForSims · 10/06/2020 21:36

I love their body butters (especially their strawberry one) so any cruelty free and preferably vegan alternatives to that would be good.

Seasidetrains · 10/06/2020 21:36

'So taking the piss out of a woman who has just written about sexual abuse is who you are?'

i'm not taking the piss out of jk rowling, i just think her view about 'sex being real' is very small minded and will validate discrimination against people who don't feel comfortable with the gender (not sure why rowling doesn't want to use that word) that they were born into.

not sure why people need to police identities so much. gender is more fluid than society has admitted up until this point. that's changing and i'm really glad about it.

it goes without saying that it's brave of jk rowling to speak out about the abuse she suffered. horrifying. but i don't see why it justifies her position on trans rights.

Lordfrontpaw · 10/06/2020 21:36

Bots socks and ninnies.

Melroses · 10/06/2020 21:35

Interestingly, the Body Shop is trending on twitter with 18K tweets yet #IStandWithJKRowling is still only 8.5K, Hmm