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JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender

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BlackKite · 10/06/2020 17:13

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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SirVixofVixHall · 12/06/2020 00:30

3littleMonkeys Yes. Same.

3LittleMonkeyz · 12/06/2020 00:19

@SirVixofVixHall

Reading that article has made me literally tear up. I think she is my idol now, and I'm sure if I ever end up as successful as her my abusive ex would be spouting similar shit to the Sun.

If a man will admit to hitting and pushing a woman and dragging her out of a house early in the morning because she tried to take a 2 month old baby with him, then I know him. I have been with a man like him. and my heart goes out to JK Rowling.

What an amazing, strong, beautiful, intelligent, articulate, wonderful woman. She should be being praised not dragged. And the Sun should be ruined.

allthewaterinthetap · 11/06/2020 23:53

As always, the Sun is repulsive.

I was rather upset that it seemed Jo was transphobic - I am quite close to the issue. However, I liked her post very much - it was sensitive and thoughtful.

SirVixofVixHall · 11/06/2020 23:40

Disgusting, vile pigs. How these people sleep is beyond me. Shame on the lot of them.

Datun · 11/06/2020 23:38

It said she writes under another name, which is the name of the man who created gay conversion therapy

Oh, for heaven sake, is this what it's come to?

Not enough that she's merely mentioned that sex is real and been told by thousands of misogynistic, violent, abusive men to fucking die in a fire.

Do you seriously expect normal people, rational people, to buy any of this ridiculous rubbish?

Are you 12?

OceanOrchid · 11/06/2020 23:36

I’m waiting til I calamities down and then composing a letter to the press complaints people. Also gonna twitter the fuck out of it.

Datun · 11/06/2020 23:35

@CaveMum

Thank you for adding that link on my behalf! I got sidetracked and forgot about it entirely.

SirVixofVixHall · 11/06/2020 23:34

Disgusting .

JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender
OceanOrchid · 11/06/2020 23:31

Anyone seen the S*n newspaper? Decided “JKRs ex husband not sorry for slapping her” was a good idea for a story. As if anyone needed yet another reason to not buy the damned paper.

OhMsBeliever · 11/06/2020 23:26

I've had to have words with people about this conspiracy theory. Not sure why they think she should have known some bloke who died a long time ago was into conversion therapy. I bet she checked if anyone living had the same name as an author and probably saw a bit about dead people called Robert Galbraith, but didn't research heavily into every single one.

Someone said why hasn't she addressed it. She bloody has a paragraph on why she chose that name on her website. They really think she should answer all their crackpot questions. Hmm

Tin foil hats at the ready.

FantaOra · 11/06/2020 22:13

Talk about a contrived conspiracy theory!!!!

Joss Prior was hawking that dolally story around Twitter this week. Desparado.

ChateauMargaux · 11/06/2020 22:00

Let's rewrite history... her Dad wanted a boy, she felt like a boy in her teens and early 20's, posed as JK to conceal her gender and then writes as Robert Galbraith. QED JK Rowling is a transman.

Fairenuff · 11/06/2020 21:53

This is what JK says about it back in 2018:

Why the name Robert Galbraith? Do you have anything to say to all those Robert Galbraiths out there?

I can only hope all the real Robert Galbraiths out there will be as forgiving as the real Harry Potters have been. I must say, I don’t think their plight is quite as embarrassing.

I chose Robert because it’s one of my favourite men’s names, because Robert F Kennedy is my hero and because, mercifully, I hadn’t used it for any of the characters in the Potter series or The Casual Vacancy.

Galbraith came about for a slightly odd reason. When I was a child, I really wanted to be called ‘Ella Galbraith’, and I’ve no idea why. I don’t even know how I knew that the surname existed, because I can’t remember ever meeting anyone with it. Be that as it may, the name had a fascination for me. I actually considered calling myself L A Galbraith for the Strike series, but for fairly obvious reasons decided that initials were a bad idea.

Odder still, there was a well-known economist called J K Galbraith, something I only remembered by the time it was far too late. I was completely paranoid that people might take this as a clue and land at my real identity, but thankfully nobody was looking that deeply at the author’s name.

Here's the link if you're interested

Oh and just in case you'd misunderstood, the transwoman character is not in all the books, I think maybe just in one? They are a series of books where the main character investigates crime.

Enderthedragon · 11/06/2020 21:51

It said she writes under another name, which is the name of the man who created gay conversion therapy, apparently under this name she also wrote a series of books in which the transwoman was the villain. Put together it does make me feel uncomfortable.

OMG, tin foil hat time... Hmm

Anyway, its the trans lobby which promote gay conversion. Loads of teenagers out there who might just be gay or lesbian and maybe don't conform to the things people normally expect for their sex are being told they are in 'the wrong body' and encouraged to transition. Think you might be gay? Change your sex, then you will be straight!

334bu · 11/06/2020 21:49

For goodness sakes there used to be lots of Galbraith's shops in Scotland and Robert is hardly an uncommon name up here-Rabbie Burns eg. Talk about a contrived conspiracy theory!!!!

Fairenuff · 11/06/2020 21:43

Why don't you read the book and judge for yourself?

What is wrong with having a transwoman as a villain anyway? I thought they were lambasting her for not having diverse enough characters? Or do you think a tw should only be a 'good' character?

Coughpatrol · 11/06/2020 21:36

I was with JK all the way but I’ve seen some things today that have made me feel uncomfortable about her.

It said she writes under another name, which is the name of the man who created gay conversion therapy, apparently under this name she also wrote a series of books in which the transwoman was the villain. Put together it does make me feel uncomfortable.

I agree with her in the majority but I feel like defending those who may turn out to be genuinely transphobic and/or bigoted in general, does no good for raising awareness and support for what we actually want to achieve.

But that’s just my personal take on it, I think there are some ‘GC’ women who are actually transphobic and it damages the ability to speak out against the real issues. Fully respect that lots of women are of the ‘whatever it takes, whoever it is’ stance.

ValancyRedfern · 11/06/2020 21:22

This might be a good article to share with the people saying this to you Neurotrash www.feministcurrent.com/2017/07/26/white-feminism-thing-gender-identity-ideology-epitomizes/

Fairenuff · 11/06/2020 21:18

With all the feelings around BLM and especially within the context of history, surely the parallels to women's history and oppression are obvious?

A lot of the people ranting on twitter are saying that JK is a privileged white woman so should not be speaking. They are completely ignoring who she is speaking up for. Women all over the world are oppressed for their biological sex. Women all over the world do not have the privilege of speaking out so she is doing it for them.

They are idiots.

NeurotrashWarrior · 11/06/2020 21:09

The cognitive dissonance I've just experienced.

Apparently, I 'look transphobic' if i say women are female.

Apparently, female is biology and woman is gender. (Where??)

Apparently, females are females due to biology, women is anyone who says they are.

With all the feelings around BLM and especially within the context of history, surely the parallels to women's history and oppression are obvious? At least the way women were treated is the past (and now) is a little more covered by curriculums than how colonial Britain was shite.

CatPottse · 11/06/2020 21:07

I agree with everything JKR writes in her article.

Brava.

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GrouchyKiwi · 11/06/2020 20:47

Fairenuff That is good advice. We continued our discussion and I think he now understands my position even if he doesn't agree with it. I should learn to step back a bit, though.

And I am so thankful to the women of this forum, because I have learned SO MUCH from all of you. Flowers

OceanOrchid · 11/06/2020 20:47

I'm formulating my plans to be courageous.

It took me two years to build up the courage to say literally anything on this issue at work. Over the last 6 months I’ve braved the topic with 5 colleagues and none have been even slightly rude to me. For me, bringing up key points (such as don’t trust stonewall) at appropriate points, with your evidence (their advice to schools running contrary to the law) has been pretty effective. I was even brave enough to point out the sex-segregated toilet requirement thing at a training course full of exceptionally woke teachers.

Part of me hates having to be meek and mild about it. I’m not like that about anything else! But where I work being openly angry would get me (at best) ignored. And by playing tactically I’ve been able to protect the students I teach from the harmful aspects of this ideology.

Fairenuff · 11/06/2020 20:44

Grouchy don't engage with goady people on social media.

If you wrestle with a pig you both get dirty. But the pig likes it.

NeurotrashWarrior · 11/06/2020 20:44

Thank you @Datun, predictably, my question, asked twice, was sidestepped.

Stopped engaging when I mentioned that definitions are important for safeguarding reasons.

Discussions here on mn and then in. Local groups, helped me first understand and then articulate the issues. Invaluable.

Thank you JK and thank you all.

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