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JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender

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BlackKite · 10/06/2020 17:13

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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YRGAM · 13/06/2020 08:42

It strikes me as very strange that it's primarily men who are going after JKR. I'm a man and among my male friends I'm pretty much alone in my support for her and rejection of unqualified TWAW.

TheBobbinIsWoundUp · 13/06/2020 08:19

Well, DH and I at least talked about this without arguing, off the back of JKR’s wonderful article.

But he still thinks that it’s unfair to exclude transgender women in the same way as it was unfair to exclude black women in apartheid South Africa - the ‘more violent as a class’ argument doesn’t work as he thinks is it’s a prejudiced stereotype and (even if it wasn’t) it still wouldn’t be fair (same argument as stop and search being unfair even when data shows more of one ethnicity committing particular crimes).

However, it’s the first time we’ve disagreed respectfully and no one has got cross and shut down debate (it’s the only issue that we argue about like that, everything else we can resolve calmly), and that’s a real win.

RuffleCrow · 13/06/2020 08:15

That is a shift @namchange9357, certainly a chnge from the days when Aimee Challenor would have sent an angry round robin making it all about Aimee Challenor (possibly whilst shitting in a disposable nappy and texting Aimee's proud paedophile boyfriend). I wish I was joking.

namechange9357 · 13/06/2020 08:11

I have an email from Green Party Women this morning, condemning the Sun and linking to JK Rowling's statement without any comment thereon... this feels like a shift.

Clymene · 13/06/2020 07:23

He's protected his tweets - screenshot below. Yes Grint has droned TWAW. Knob

JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender
Ritascornershop · 13/06/2020 07:18

What did Glinner say? I don’t have a Twitter account and while I can see other threads I can’t see his lately.

7Days · 13/06/2020 00:10

Absolutely Glinner.

Inquisitorial squad personified.

Lifeinthelastlane · 13/06/2020 00:01

Has Rupert tweeted something then?

Dances · 12/06/2020 23:55

Deborah FW is Aunt Lydia

Dances · 12/06/2020 23:53

Glinner twittee
It's awful but it is true
mobile.twitter.com/Glinner/status/1271563784226824193

beachdreaming2020 · 12/06/2020 23:49

Usual shite on twitter from Deborah Francis White. Criticising JKR but not the abuse JKR is receiving. How she calls herself any sort of a feminist I do not know.
Incidentally I saw her speak at a corporate event for women (nice little earner) in an industry which has a particularly bad record for gender equality and I was stunned that the majority of her - very well delivered - speech was focused on how we women should be more inclusive. Talk about missing the point. We all got a free copy of her book of which I read one chapter and had to bin it as it was such utter tripe. I’ve never in my life thrown away a book as it strikes me as almost sinful but this really was a load of codswallop.

BoreOfWhabylon · 12/06/2020 23:28

I do hope someone has pointed out Harrop's hypocrisy to him.

JemimaShore · 12/06/2020 23:19

And the All Time King of Hypocrisy award goes to drumroll Adrian Harrop!

Having likened JK to Jimmy Saville mere days ago, then shat himself because she has shit hot lawyers, and apologised, then saying he was muting JK Rowling on twitter for his mental health - he then sees his own abusive behaviour reflected back to him in the form of the Sun's gutter reporting.

Congrats Adrian Harrop - you are the world's biggest hypocrite.

JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender
OrangeBlossomsinthesun · 12/06/2020 18:29

I wrote to the info@jkrowling address and also got a short thank you back.
I posted JK's piece on FB with no comment from me and my cousin posted that she was so disgusted she couldn't read pas t "a man identifying as a woman" which surprised me a bit as she's a lesbian, but she obviously thinks JK is a terrible transphobe TERF.
But, after her 2 of my friends liked it and posted thanks for sharing. I haven't interacted at all with it (don't want to provoke my cousin) but I did message the first liker to explain why. She said she'd had a convo about it all with a male friend and he'd accused her of being a fascist! But he is apparently super woke.

boatyardblues · 12/06/2020 17:56

Also 💐 for Prinstress.

boatyardblues · 12/06/2020 17:53

I had an acknowledgement back from JKR’s official account. It was short & to the point. I’m hoping this means they’re inundated (in a good way) & need to keep it brief to keep up.

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 12/06/2020 16:50

Thanks, Robert Smile

(I know you’ve had a tough time lately - take it easy.)

Doyoumind · 12/06/2020 15:43

Robert Webb also liked a post by Gendered Intelligence so I'm not sure he's that on board.

Oxyiz · 12/06/2020 15:42

Ah Robert. Please don't cave again. Please.

beargrass · 12/06/2020 15:07

@Prinstress Thanks

BatShite · 12/06/2020 15:06

It said she writes under another name, which is the name of the man who created gay conversion therapy, apparently under this name she also wrote a series of books in which the transwoman was the villain. Put together it does make me feel uncomfortable.

Ys, I am sure that the years of standing up for minorities and such..was all an act and she definitely picked that name as she agrees with conversion therapy and not for any other reason, including the long one she gave at the time Hmm

DeRigueurMortis · 12/06/2020 14:59

Robert Webb has commented on Twitter.

twitter.com/arobertwebb/status/1271363908834648064?s=21

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Iggi999 · 12/06/2020 14:48

[quote Prinstress]Another author I love and admire, Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie.

www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/clip/2237b1ff-f932-4893-9827-5917b636e96c[/quote]
Everyone in that clip quotes with an Shock and a Angry is simply speaking sense, it's so hard to see how it is misinterpreted?

RatinaMaze · 12/06/2020 14:45

I'm one of those women who can't speak up publicly. I have too much to lose in my career and the likely impact on my family. I have one person in my family/social circle who is the wokest of the woke and I regret the fact that I don't have the backbone to provide a counter-point to her numerous social media posts, but the recriminations would be too much.

Anyway, this is all a preamble to some amazing news! One of my friends posted JKR's essay on fb earlier in the week. I was - and am - delighted by the fact that she has more courage than I do to nail her courage to the mast. Even better though, only one person has liked the post, and not just liked but commented with very clear thoughts in support of JKR and against self-id. That one person is one of my employees - the woman who posted the article is a mutual friend of both of us. I can't really formally acknowledge my employee's viewpoint but I'd love her to know that I agree and support her.

If you are here and recognise the scenario above, give yourself a big fat, feminist hug and know that you are not alone.

Iggi999 · 12/06/2020 14:44

Lamahaha that makes no sense. I'm glad you're happy to shop for meat but many vegetarians wouldn't be, doesn't mean they deserve mocking! I would not expect work meals to be in veggie restaurants though but it would be nice if the Xmas meal out "veggie" menu didn't include a fish starter and a pasta dish covered in Parmesan Hmm

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