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JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender

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BlackKite · 10/06/2020 17:13

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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RedToothBrush · 10/06/2020 22:35

What does Emma Watson know about life apart from wanting to make her followers happy?

Another one who has been reading headlines not what JKR has said. And more importantly why.

I think I don't really need to say more except post this:

Late on Saturday evening, scrolling through children’s pictures before I went to bed, I forgot the first rule of Twitter – never, ever expect a nuanced conversation – and reacted to what I felt was degrading language about women. I spoke up about the importance of sex and have been paying the price ever since. I was transphobic, I was a cunt, a bitch, a TERF, I deserved cancelling, punching and death. You are Voldemort said one person, clearly feeling this was the only language I’d understand.

It would be so much easier to tweet the approved hashtags – because of course trans rights are human rights and of course trans lives matter – scoop up the woke cookies and bask in a virtue-signalling afterglow. There’s joy, relief and safety in conformity. As Simone de Beauvoir also wrote, “… without a doubt it is more comfortable to endure blind bondage than to work for one’s liberation; the dead, too, are better suited to the earth than the living.”

BringbackLang · 10/06/2020 22:34

I can imagine the backtracking when Mermaids goes the way of Kids Company.

'Of course I didn't know...'

It's gonna happen

TooOldForSims · 10/06/2020 22:34

@DeRigueurMortis

To be fair to Emma she's a better actress than I thought, after all she did a good job of pretending to be clever and capable of critical thought as Hermione.

🤷‍♀️

Grin
DeRigueurMortis · 10/06/2020 22:33

To be fair to Emma she's a better actress than I thought, after all she did a good job of pretending to be clever and capable of critical thought as Hermione.

🤷‍♀️

TooOldForSims · 10/06/2020 22:33

She is obviously not a pro hockey player but she has played competitively before at least.

BaronessSnippyPantsofCroneArmy · 10/06/2020 22:32

"A day or so back I read a horrific account of Yazidi girls being burnt to death in cages because they had refused to become sex slaves. Then some twaddle by a young woman about being non-binary. I cried with sadness and frustration, that our world and culture are destroying girls, and yet there are young women happily going along with this."

I saw that SirVix and it made me cry too. The women and girls who survive these atrocities are the ones Baroness Nicholson works so hard for. I don't think everyone is aware of her work in this area.

TooOldForSims · 10/06/2020 22:31

@TheSingingKettle49

Emma’s tweet just shows her privilege.

She doesn’t have to worry about sharing a prison cell or hospital room with someone who’s decided to say they identify as a woman without having to jump through any hoops at all. She doesn’t have to worry about being followed into a communal changing room at the local pool or competing against a transwoman in professional sports and losing when you would’ve won against any other woman.

Actually I am pretty sure Emma plays hockey or at least she used to. I wonder how she would feel about playing against a transwoman?
peoplearepeople · 10/06/2020 22:30

I mentioned this on another thread, but LBC are talking about this topic shortly. (maybe 11pm?) Can anyone who's good at this stuff phone in? Whenever I've listened to phone ins on this before it's been woeful, with the presenter not really having a clue about the issues people are actually concerned about.

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 10/06/2020 22:29

I'm quietly optimistic about Emma Watson. She's a clever girl.

Nah.

ComDummings · 10/06/2020 22:29

@TheSingingKettle49

Emma’s tweet just shows her privilege.

She doesn’t have to worry about sharing a prison cell or hospital room with someone who’s decided to say they identify as a woman without having to jump through any hoops at all. She doesn’t have to worry about being followed into a communal changing room at the local pool or competing against a transwoman in professional sports and losing when you would’ve won against any other woman.

Absolutely
TheSingingKettle49 · 10/06/2020 22:28

Emma’s tweet just shows her privilege.

She doesn’t have to worry about sharing a prison cell or hospital room with someone who’s decided to say they identify as a woman without having to jump through any hoops at all. She doesn’t have to worry about being followed into a communal changing room at the local pool or competing against a transwoman in professional sports and losing when you would’ve won against any other woman.

Enderthedragon · 10/06/2020 22:27

She will be being put under pressure, so who can tell if she manages to hold out?

She has already tweeted - TWAW, and encouraging people to donate to Mermaids.

Hercwasonaroll · 10/06/2020 22:27

Has everyone seen Johan Lamont MSP tweet in support.

7Days · 10/06/2020 22:27

Well that's good Ginger

ofwarren · 10/06/2020 22:26

twitter.com/EmmaWatson/status/1270826851070619649?s=20
Emma speaks.....

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 10/06/2020 22:26

A few male journalists, including Ian Dunt who is very of-the-left, have tweeted in support of JKR today. Aaronovitch and Jonathan Haynes from the Guardian too.

Aesopfable · 10/06/2020 22:25

@NeverTalksToStrangers

I'm quietly optimistic about Emma Watson. She's a clever girl. Afaik the only thing she has done prior to this is sport a "trans rights are human rights" t-shirt. Nothing incorrect with that statement.
She will be being put under pressure, so who can tell if she manages to hold out?
macaroniandpizza · 10/06/2020 22:23

I feel sad that she has had to release said article on her life just because some people cant comprehend what she has said in her tweets is true

DuDuDuLangaLangaBingBong · 10/06/2020 22:22

I’ve got an accordion and a recorder. Not sure how well that would work with an orchestra 😂

Kind of off topic but I’ve recently been learning about the all-female jazz big bands of the 30s and 40s. Can you imagine trying to get such a project off the ground nowadays? You’d probably be cancelled before the first rehearsal.
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Definitelyrandom · 10/06/2020 22:22

Very, very good and nuanced writing from JKR. I know this doesn’t add anything to the discussion but I wanted to say that here.

ChattyLion · 10/06/2020 22:22

Thank you for writing so powerfully in that blog post JK. It means so much to read this. Sorry you had to mention your own survivorship. Thank you for speaking up for women and children. You get it. You’re using your platform. That’s something to be so proud of. I’m yet another woman so grateful to you for doing that, for me and so many others, children and adults. Please, keep going if you can. Don’t let the social media bastards get you down.Flowers

Enderthedragon · 10/06/2020 22:21

Jesus, now Emma is encouraging people to donate to Mermaids!

7Days · 10/06/2020 22:20

You fuck8ng eejit Emma.

Hand biting little weasel

TooTiredTodayOk · 10/06/2020 22:19

FFS - I shared the post on my Facebook, it got a couple of 'likes' from women I suspected might be of a similar view to me, so I'm happy with that.

And then this comment, I don't even know where to start in replying to it Confused
I'm sick of all this fear mongering about the GRA, there's little to no chance that a man would go to the effort of declaring a change of gender just to infiltrate women's spaces.

Enderthedragon · 10/06/2020 22:19

Emma has tweeted. So people can't tell trans people who they are, but can tell women what they are. Right, got it Emma...

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