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JK new post on her reasons for writing about gender

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BlackKite · 10/06/2020 17:13

www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

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FaceOfASpink · 10/06/2020 23:49

I've been listening to the Wolf Hall trilogy recently and wondering how people could have been so savage as to cheer and watch the awful executions that took place. When I read the vileness on Twitter I see that the mentality behind it hasn't abated.

HermioneKipper · 10/06/2020 23:48

Just when I thought I couldn’t love her more. Damn she’s good.

Would love to post on social media but fear for my job sadly. I will be donating to JK’s chosen charities though and sending her an email.

What a woman, her writing is beautiful and articulate.

Sparkyduchess · 10/06/2020 23:46

God, I really hope JK Rowling is here, and sees the outpouring of love and appreciation.

That essay was totally perfect. Articulate, clear and compassionate.

I’m just sorry she had to make public her private pain.

JK has been someone I’ve admired for years, never more so than now.

WitchenKitch · 10/06/2020 23:45

I've emailed my thanks and support, and added that I hope that whoever is having to read all these emails won't let the negative responses get to them.

I am so thrilled at JK's bravery, and that she's setting an example of how not to back down!

Coffeeandbeans · 10/06/2020 23:37

A friend on FB posted the article. This friends has never shown any interested in this before. Occasionally a supportive post about trans rights. But now is actually saying the Jk Rawlings is spot on!!

TilerSwift · 10/06/2020 23:33

I’m a bit confused. So JK Rowling has been hauled over the coals for pointing out its women, not people that menstruate yet the NHS website clearly says men (not people) suffer from prostate, testicular cancer etc. Eh?

LittleCabbage · 10/06/2020 23:31

That is one of the most articulate, intelligent and well-reasoned pieces of writing that I have ever read. Not even a tiny hint of any ill-will towards trans people, and a clear explanation of your concerns.

Well done Jo, you are brave and strong, and I am in awe of you. And from your language, it is obvious that you are on Mumsnet - that is so good to know! Flowers

Fairenuff · 10/06/2020 23:30

A key differentiation is between the words "sex" and "gender". Our sex, which is physical - male or female - is distinct from our gender, which is psychological and social.

Blimey I never thought I'd see the day when the BBC made a factual statement on this subject.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 10/06/2020 23:30

She is so a MNetter. If you’re reading this, Jo, you fucking rock!

I’ve emailed her too, in the probably faint hope of balancing the rabid abuse somewhat.

testing987654321 · 10/06/2020 23:28

I just got the same feeling after reading the Guardian headline, definitely going for the most salacious part instead of what her main points really are.

Doyoumind · 10/06/2020 23:28

Yes nauticant, I saw the Guardian going for that headline. The responses below made me angry - suggesting it was a convenient 'out' and comparing her to Kevin Spacey.

BonjourMinou · 10/06/2020 23:28

Another long time FWR lurker joining the thread to say: thank you, Jo. Thank you for your bravery and your eloquence. Thank you for not stepping down. I shared your article to my Facebook. Courage calls to courage.

I shall join the Mumsnet orchestra with a tambourine grabbed from the kids music box. Thanks

Justhadathought · 10/06/2020 23:27

I think many of us have been in the position she has found herself in, as a result pf posting honest views on social media, and we will therefore have deep empathy and total understanding of the kind of 'lay it all out' and deeply personal revelation that tends to ensue.

Good on her! it can only make her even more brave and outspoken When you have been subject to such nastiness and vilification from total strangers, and lived to survive it......you tend to "grow a pair", and in doing so, get some persepective.

Honestly, though, social media and twitter, specifically is the pits. When it comes to the court of public opinion most will be oblivious as to her 'trial' or what she has ben put on trial for.

nauticant · 10/06/2020 23:22

Having looked at a number of reports in the mainstream media I'm worried. The media outlets are looking for a hook on which to sell the story to their audience, and the hook they're going for, as being the juiciest and most tempting, is the news that JKR suffered "domestic abuse and sexual assault". Thus the story, pre-packaged for the delectation of the audience, becomes: "JKR says her controversial statements about transgender issues are justified because she has suffered domestic abuse and sexual assault". In this way, her excellent essay can be misrepresented as being a long way of saying that transwomen are predators.

MiraWard77 · 10/06/2020 23:21

Haven't RTFT (I know, I'll have missed something important; apologies)

Came here after reading the essay. And got to this comment, with which I could not agree more:

@WomaninBoots "Holy crap I am SO close to sharing this on Facebook and losing all my friends... SO close."

I'm still so scared of being reported as a non-crime hate criminal and losing my job though. So came here to rave instead.

And as another PP noted, JK must me a MNer, so: Thank you! Please set up a charity/foundation for actual women, JK. I will pay membership.

Melroses · 10/06/2020 23:21

Emma is a silly girl not fit to lick JKs boots.

They have really exposed themselves as vacuous. Acting clichés.

Fairenuff · 10/06/2020 23:21

I'm sick of all this fear mongering about the GRA, there's little to no chance that a man would go to the effort of declaring a change of gender just to infiltrate women's spaces.

Um, well that already happened

In any case, it's not about men pretending to be trans, it's about men taking advantage of anyone being allowed access to female only spaces because female will include 'anyone who says they are'. They don't need to put on a dress, change their name or even shave.

TofuonToast · 10/06/2020 23:20

I think the rage on Twitter is actually a positive thing. You only get that type of fury when someone’s ideology is under threat. The movement is cracking under the pressure of reason because it’s built on fantasy and fluff.

teawamutu · 10/06/2020 23:19

@RedToothBrush

There's a writer who has tweeted that "she just doesn't understand why JK has done this", then in the next breath, "oh look, my new book is out for pre order"

Oh look here comes a bangwagon I can hitch my wago to so I can sell my shit.

Seems there is more than a few of them out there. Its remarkably cynical and very very neo-capitalist.

I do hope that's been pointed out.

Separate but related note - finally seeing some blue ticks speaking out in support. About fucking time.

ofwarren · 10/06/2020 23:19

twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1270823167926419457?s=20
Shes on front page of The Times

Barracker · 10/06/2020 23:16

I can't express my disgust at Emma Watson betraying Joanne this way. Her deliberate wording, her choice of timing.

I care nothing for her opinion, she is vacuous, cowardly and unthinking, but the thought of how each of these successive betrayals may be piercing Joanne, these people she has known since childhood and no doubt loved, each in turn expressing their rejection of her and their support for the people issuing her death threats.

I can't imagine how painful these public denouncements from her friends must feel.

I'm about as close to hate as I ever want to be right now for these awful people, writing their lies and appeasing the mob by throwing Joanne to them as a sacrifice.

I wish them a long lifetime in the company they have chosen.

MaleficentsCrow · 10/06/2020 23:16

I'm on a phone so don't think the below link will work, I don't know, but if you copy it in the abuse JK is receiving is horrific!!! How can anyone preach they just want to be accepted, and to be tolerant when they spout this!!!

medium.com/@rebeccarc/j-k-rowling-and-the-trans-activists-a-story-in-screenshots-78e01dca68d

Haworthia · 10/06/2020 23:16

What she said about, had she been born 30 years later, she too might have embraced being a trans boy, was so bang on the money.

She really, really gets it.

AgentCooper · 10/06/2020 23:15

@BentBastard indeed.

If you are reading, Jo, I wish I could give you a big hug. You do not deserve this abuse Flowers thank you for speaking for women and girls.