Well, I've just come out as GC on Facebook...

Surely:

If you feel uncomfortable about gay marriage, then don’t enter into a gay marriage.
If you feel uncomfortable about transwomen in women’s prisons, showers or boxing rings, you’re stuck because suddenly you are now unable to organise as a group of women (a key women’s right that people seem to forget we fought for).
Is that it?

He has loads of friends and many of the men question him, but so politely! Like, "I wish you would rethink that,..." and "I don't agree" or "why are you so obsessed with trans, it's not your battle".

If he were a woman the same people would be after him with pitchforks! It's on the one side infuriating, on the other side a lot of people DO seem to approve so it's a bit of a sign that not all of the USA has fallen. He has loads of friends and I don't think he has lost any over this.
It's a long slow process but there is hope. I have not yet outed myself on FB. Though I am not an employee who could get sacked I do need contracts and being hounded by people with pitchforks if I were to come out would be the end of all I've been working towards. BUT I know once I get there I will go public with a fury.

a friend in the refuge sector in the uk says theres absolutely a clear divide between the older (45 plus- ish) and the younger staff on this. she tries v much to neutrally bring them together but...v hard.

"The thing that really made me angry is my (female) friend who has worked with victims of DV and sexual violence and yet called JK Rowling a 'transphobic bitch' for being worried about women's rights! Surely she of all people should get why women need single sex spaces? Argh!"

You'd think, huh. But no! Because she's bought into the fallacy that transwomen are THE MOST abused and THE MOST at risk of violence, so they deserve spaces in refuges same as women. And OF COURSE they won't abuse the other women because THEY ARE WOMEN TOO.

I've actually got someone, a friend, on my timeline coming out with this shit too - not shouting, like I am for emphasis - but it's ALL about their feelings, their validation, their safety - because they are more at risk than the 2+ women per week killed in the UK by a partner/ ex partner, and the 1+ women per week in Australia killed in the same way. So those traumatised women who have escaped from their abusers just have to move over and let in other male-bodied people to their supposed safe space, because. And no, you're not allowed to suggest that there should be a separate refuge for transwomen because that is "othering" and hurts their feelz. Well quite honestly, fuck their feelz. They ARE "other" because they have penises.

Friend is likening it to same-sex marriage, and all the people who came out saying "let them have it but call it something different because of the sanctity of marriage" (bollocks) - and I haven't yet managed to put together a coherent argument that refutes that successfully. I'm working on it but if anyone can help me out with that, I'd be enormously grateful!

I've gone bright red and been shaking with nerves when vaguely skirting round the trans issue with friends in real life, to feel them out as it were! Lol!

Far too scared to reveal myself on Facebook.

Sorry who are the ones who face abuse and are fearful? 🙄

I've just left the Terry Pratchett FB fan group, We Aten't Dead.
There was an unpleasant post in it yesterday, calling JKR a terf etc.
I reported it for hate speech.
Admin put up a note asking people to not use the term, as it is considered a slur and hate speech - I'm SURE I wasn't the only one to report it! - and BANG - a whole thread, over 280 comments, wherein 90% of them were misogynistic hate-filled TRA supporting rants. Refusal to acknowledge that terf is used in any objectionable way. Refusal to acknowedge that cis is unacceptable to many women.

Too many of them - so I left, because while they're banging on about it "not being a safe space for trans", I know it's now not a safe space for women to stand up for their biological sex-based rights.

I'm fucking pissed off.

popehilarious

People on the west coast might know Yaniv, but here on the east coast I've not met one person who knew anything about the case. It wasn't really reported much, a little in the National Post, but it's considered to right wing to read by most progressives. (Though it's actually moderate right I'd say, maybe like the Times.) The CBC would never touch it.

trans women and trans men that should read

I cant believe all this time she thought she could truly change her biological sex

That does seem unbelievable, I mean WTF. I stand with trans women and men but everyone should know you can't biologically change sex.
Science and all that.
Sounds like wasn't paying attention in biology to come out with that comment!
Had a convo with my teen today, we're huge HP fans here and it came up as he'd seen her trending on Twitter and wanted to know what it was all about.
Said it's hard to explain but she'd basically said biological sex is real, which it is, but there's more to it than that as trans people have a right to live as their true selves too by law.
Not being goady, an honest conversation that happened today and just my take on it.

it gets easier every time, so keep going, and whereas last year a few people contacted me privately to agree, nowadays lots of people agree....

I've sort of come out more too today. Created a specific friends list and went for it after the stuff about the school. I'm escalating more rapidly than I thought, but this is inspired by JKR's essay.

@SapphireSeptember

How have you found today? Have you had much come back? I hope you're ok.

StealthMama huge apologies! Bloody autocorrect!

I've posted a link to JKR blog post plus the Medium screenshots of the tweets and vile attacks.

So far have had 2 people say ah at least we have X writer now we don't have JK and one reacted with a haha. 3 women.

Fuck me.

I did get one private message from a male saying I'm brave to post in her support, which was surprising but positive.

I've just edited my caption to clarify I'm upset about the abuse JKR is receiving. Since it seems to have been interpreted the opposite way by those 3 women.

Edging towards deleting it all but if I can reach just one other person with the truth .. I've just asked one to read JK blog and tell me exactly what it is she disagrees with

Stealth man, you’d have thought so, wouldn’t you!

I've had a stressful couple of days after posting on fb. I've done it before subtly but this was the most attention it got I think due to JKR. It made me incredibly anxious and I had some upsetting conversations. But I also had some really productive ones as well. I won't be doing it again for a while but a friend messaged me to say thank you and that I had opened her eyes to it all. That meant so much as that is why I put myself through the anxiety of being gc on fb.

@popehilarious Ah yes, my friend does live here too.

Can someone tell me please, why can't Transwomen be Transwomen? Why the need to drop the Trans, when they have to get a certificate that vilifies that that have Trans'ed? It says so on actual paper? Just as it says you have got married, or changed your name, or been birthed, or died, or divorced.

Its seems simple to me. TWATW.

HarryHarry no, sorry, I was referring to your friends who I assume also live in Canada, but obviously this might not be the case!

HarryHarry, I read pope's post as meaning your "friend", not you. I feel for you, I've been feeling enraged the past few days. I try to remember that each time we do this, the argument moves a bit further our way, more daylight is shone on the issue, and I truly believe that movement is one way only. I mean when people learn more about the issue, they move from TRA towards GC, not the other way. You've done a good thing, you can step away for a bit if you want xxx

@popehilarious Was that meant for me? Sorry if I’m being thick but what did you mean by ‘stand by it’? I do live in the same country as Yaniv (albeit on the other side of that country) and I think he is a disgusting pervert but what can I do about it?