SNP MP wants to talk about menstruation

I do wonder why there isn't more campaigning and support for better and quicker health services for trans people. And actually better and quicker mental health support for young people in general. The waiting lists at CAMHS are a disgrace. It all seems to get lost in the battle over words and labels.

Yup, if the trans activists genuinely cared about trans people, this would have been the main area to campaign on.
Yet it's more important to force organisations and institutions to change words like women to be menstruators and demand that males can undress next to women and girls. Go figure. 😕

Haha, I love the bored "Shoogly peg, hen" 😄

I do wonder why there isn't more campaigning and support for better and quicker health services for trans people. And actually better and quicker mental health support for young people in general. The waiting lists at CAMHS are a disgrace. It all seems to get lost in the battle over words and labels.

This person you are calling a “deluded eejit”
is a member of parliament
This is someone people felt inspired confidence to put in charge of helping run the country
This is someone who is paid by the government from people’s taxes.

Yes, I did realise this (sadly). I was being sarcastic (damn you internet, for not conveying tone adequately).

And yes, it is frightening.

And depressing, because if Scotland ever got independence, I was going to take out dual nationality. But I'm not sure I could if this shit fest continues.

I can't vote for them anymore. It's upsetting because I support independence but I just cannot in good conscience vote for a party that is so willing to erode women's rights.

You've gotta give the poor deluded eejit credit for having done it on graph paper, with a compass, to make it look all properly scientific and all

This person you are calling a “deluded eejit”
is a member of parliament
This is someone people felt inspired confidence to put in charge of helping run the country
This is someone who is paid by the government from people’s taxes.

Frightening?

I posted the question about transmen and menstruation - something along the lines of "why don't they prevent it?" Like any other female who doesn't want to bleed, for whatever reason. It was asked in good faith and I'm not sneering at anyone.

Hadn't thought about young girls with gender differences, I had in my mind adult transmen. Fair point.

Kids are a whole other ball game.

What I said about testosterone is true, though, please don't let your child go on T, Madam Butterface. It's soon going to be a giant health crisis for this group of people. They will start having strokes and heart attacks because of the lack of oestrogen in their female bodies. I am really very worried about them.

I was going to say, if we all started calling people with IBS "shitters" I don't think they'd be any more willing to take it lying down than women are "menstruators".

I snorted at the comment talking about ‘people who shit’ in regard to bowel cancer. Yes let’s all reduce everyone to excretions.

#people who menstruate
#people who ejaculate
#people who lactate
#people who shit

The plethora of organisations grooming children into believing they must have this special language for their special identity are at fault here and they do by and large appear to be run by middle aged males.

The posters here are not causing this awful situation. The opposite in fact, most support stopping this awful trade in human misery.

I'm still confused about how they got from Tartan Tories to The Wokest In All The Land. And not convinced they're not still the same underneath all the bollocks.

There is no need to call women "menstruators" as we are already called women.

The only good thing about all this is that my partner is an SNP supporter but was properly shocked to hear these lunatic ideas. He's one of the "och, as long as people are happy i don't care what they do" brigade but hadn't realised this was actual
Policy and is not impressed.

My son asked me as they're renaming women, what are they calling men..??? He's not impressed either, though only 13

When I was a kid the SNP were a minority party of oddballs (well where we were anyway). When the canvassing cars used to come around with the loudspeakers, us kids used to shout rude words at them.

I don’t think much has changed in 40 years.

"No one is saying you have to have menstuator on your passport..."

I find been called menstator offensive in the same way I find beed called a cunt offensive. Neither is likely to be put on my passport, but I won't except either term, even if a strangers kid find it 'helpful' to use the term. This does not mean I wish your daughter ill, in fact I hope she receives whatever help she needs, just not at my detriment.

Why is reality not acceptable?

and for whom inclusive language is tremendously helpful

I understand the point you are making, but that does not make it less relevant that without language to describes sex class, sex based discrimination is enabled.

You have suggested 'female', but, as far as I understand it is not considered acceptable to refer to transwomen as 'male'.

MadameButterface You have my genuine sympathy. I have a friend in your very position and I have a non-conforming child I am watching very closely. This is a very hard situation and I think you would actually find that there are parents on the thread posted that may help. Truly your decision.

I (and as many others have actually posted their agreeance) agree that female is very good word to use. It has been however sometimes violently rejected as an alternative. Hence why we are in this situation of fighting over language that is not serving anyone well and for my perspective is dehumanising to women. I, also, would be much happier to have the focus on the NHS leading the way in providing excellence in immediate mental health support while waiting for other support.

It is also important, however, to acknowledge the legal ramifications for our daughters and their future women's rights. This is a major part of the real discussion. The outrage you see is women feeling completely unsupported in standing up for these protections and ensuring that the rights of transgender people sit neatly with women's rights without erosion. Can it be done? Hard to know when the Equality Act has been misinterpreted to suit a lobby groups agenda based on the conflating of sex and gender.

But perhaps you know all of this.

I wish you well and that your child gets the outside support they need and that you do also.

So based on the chart, almost half of all "menstruators" aren't women? I know there were an awful lot of young women transitioning but that would represent one hell of a jump in numbers.