Asda's new pronoun badges for staff

I think £100,000 could be better spent. Start with Foodbanks, for instance. I wonder how many staff will even be interested in wearing such a badge? Were they/them/their asked? Hopefully some people who work for Asda might tell us. My daughter has a friend who works for a finance company in London. At the start of meetings each member of staff now has to introduce themselves, also explaining how they "identify". Who actually cares? On the other hand, with Asda staff in those awful black and green uniforms, some staff might feel uncomfortable that they cannot express themselves through the way they dress, wear their hair or use makeup, so might appreciate a badge. It would be interesting to hear from such a person to get their point of view.

Like, do you need to know someone's pronouns to ask them what aisle the soup is in or when there might be more fresh bread coming out? And if someone does ask, and the person answers, what's meant to happen then?

I'm not sure what kind of conversation you would be having with someone working at Asda where it would be appropriate for you as a customer to ask them their pronouns. Perhaps these are meant to be aimed more at coworkers, but if people are wearing them then customers might ask, and that could be an awkward conversation. Unless they plan to start banning customers who don't ask in the way the person being asked would have liked I don't see how this is likely to end well.

I din't want a load of politics with my milk and bread, thanks.

It's exclusionary to women, and telling us ASDA don't think we should have rights.

Why on earth would I need to talk about a worker in ASDA? Do they imagine I'm going to be saying how stunning and brave he/she/they are?

If they just have the money to charity - that would give them stack of PR opportunities. But no. They felt the need to do this. I wonder who suggested this nonsense?

I have never used pronouns when addressing supermarket employees. I cannot even fathom why anyone would.

This is nothing but pushing gender identity ideology. Would be the same as if theists pushed bible quotations or something.

fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/#:~:text=Pronouns%20are%20Rohypnol%20%E2%80%93%20by%20Barra%20Kerr&text=Specifically%2C%20'preferred'%20pronouns.,you%20to%20talk%20about%20me'.

The fun I'm gonna have with this.

FFS!
So if someone wishes to complain about a pronoun-badge-wearing-Asda-worker they will need to get their pronoun(s) right or they will be accused of being transphobic or hate speech? I can see that going well - Asda is potentially creating an issue for themselves - if they don't haul up customers using the wrong pronouns then the worker may complain about Asda's treatment of them, cue pile on from the woke brigade...

What next?

A badge to declare your sexual orientation?

A badge to declare your religion?

A badge to declare who you last voted for?

Information about your beliefs and private life to be worn publicly. Theoretically optional but don't do it and you find yourself under suspicion for wrong think.

That always went well in the past. Not.

Should they not have the right to be recognised as trans men, or trans women? As that's how your comment comes across.

Maybe people who want to be recognised as something tricky for the layperson to understand, should issue Spotters' Guides, like for planes and ships.

You seem to be objecting to two things - the badges and trans people in general.
Should they not have the right to be recognised as trans men, or trans women?
This kind of logic totally escapes me. Who the hell thinks wearing a badge proclaiming intimate details about your private life so total strangers who don't give a toss can be a party to it is some kind of aspirational human right?

So they aren't going to be wearing the silly badges then? Phew. I suppose if you went onto the website of the agency that came up with the branding it won't be shown in their portfolio then?

They probably get a gold star from stonewall or something. What a bloody monumental waste of nothing. £100k to let customers know what the staff are 'feeling like'?

If you are a female this is part of an approach that will impact on you - rights that you have because you are female will be eroded by including men within the definition of women

Somebody wearing a pronoun badge doesn't impact on me in the slightest.
I wouldn't wear one myself, but each to their own.
You seem to be objecting to two things - the badges and trans people in general.
Should they not have the right to be recognised as trans men, or trans women? As that's how your comment comes across.

I guess for me it's more that they have forced their staff to accept worse contracts than they were on, which actually are really bad for women who have children; yet they have the money to impliment stuff like this.

Oh like they way they have 'fixed' the issue of getting more women on boards in Scotland?

Is this ASDA preparing to fake fixing their gender pay gap issue?

So, don't make any real changes. Simply encourage some highly paid men to come out as women and some lowly paid women to come out as men and hey presto the statistics make it look like they reduced sex discrimination.

So - if they have public loos or changing rooms (they sell clothes don't they?) - segregated by sex, gender or hair colour?

Oh, ffs...

@LemonadeAndDaisyChains

If you are a female this is part of an approach that will impact on you - rights that you have because you are female will be eroded by including men within the definition of women.

For example, if a woman does not want to share a changing room with a man - if the man says he identifies as a woman and his pronouns are "she" - into the changing room "she" can trot.

Domestic violence refuge? Anyone who says they're a woman are welcome - regardless of whether they are bepenised.

So sure - its very unlikely to impact on a shopping trip to ASDA sure. But the movement to say that people can choose whatever sex they are is a very real threat to women's rights. You can't have women's rights when the definition of women includes people with penises.

Bring it on I say.

Where's the problem?

Aren't you worried that real life people who work and shop at ASDA are going to be exposed to this new ideology (maybe for the first time) and might go WTAF?