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Jonathan Ross - well done

94 replies

LockdownLump · 08/06/2020 06:54

www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/jonathan-ross-fiercely-defends-jk-22153984

Here he is again - sticking up for the side of rationality!!

The BTL comments are heartening too.

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Lordfrontpaw · 08/06/2020 21:58

Are they trans then? I’d not why we they more qualified to decide?

BringbackLang · 08/06/2020 21:51

His daughters are quite foolish.

BringbackLang · 08/06/2020 21:49

He posted this not long ago.

Jonathan Ross - well done
zanahoria · 08/06/2020 19:07

The Independent is not really a newspaper, not simply as it only exits online but because it does precious little news gathering itself. It just buys in reports from press agencies and offers views on them mainly by lower grade journalists who just hack out identikit woke views

Lordfrontpaw · 08/06/2020 18:01

The Indy is one step along from the guardian. A load of twaddle. And Jonathan really needs to have a wee words with his daughter about calling women sexist slurs - since she obviously doesn’t understand.

MedusasButterDish · 08/06/2020 17:09

The "Independent" provides an opportunity to compare coverage of a woman and a man speaking on trans issues.

Look at the difference between Jonathan Ross:
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jonathan-ross-graham-linehan-transphobia-lgbt-twitter-backlash-a9408776.html

At least that article quoted Ross's words... providing some sort of appearance of "balance" (compared to the numerous tweets attacking him and Linehan)

Now look at how the "Independent" has really gone for it with JK Rowling. Not content to report people calling her transphobic; they reported someone calling her a hypocrite about Black Lives Matters:

to subtly show she disagreed with Rowling’s views. [...] Leung used the hashtag: “#AsiansForBlackLives.”

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/jonathan-ross-daughter-honey-jk-rowling-transphobic-tweets-harry-potter-a9554126.html

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/jk-rowling-trans-katie-leung-cho-chang-harry-potter-tweets-racist-a9553271.html

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/jk-rowling-transphobic-twitter-harry-potter-trans-women-lgbt-pride-month-a9554986.html

The sexist double standard is as clear as day. Do they think we can't see this?

ThinEndoftheWedge · 08/06/2020 16:36

McDuffy

He retweeted this too:

*Dr. Jessica Taylor
@DrJessTaylor
There is nothing woke or progressive about tweeting a woman who holds a different opinion to you and calling her a bitch, telling her to kill herself, sending her memes of guns being pointed at her, rape threats & so on.

You can’t use misogyny and violence to back up ‘feminism’*

Agreed though I thought he would be on our side - if DB has drunk the koolaid - I’ll be gutted.

zanahoria · 08/06/2020 11:28

I remember when he interviewed her, he is obviously a huge fan.

Floisme · 08/06/2020 10:36

Anyway I got distracted - I came on to say thank you Jonathan Ross Sir.

And while I haven't read all 800-odd responses, it's very instructive to see the difference in tone - e.g. 'I'm sorry, Jonathan but you're categorically wrong' - compared to the batshittery directed at JKR.

TreestumpsAndTrampolines · 08/06/2020 09:54

I got pushed this in my 'morning news briefing' and the spin they're putting on JKR's perfectly reasonable and measured tweets is crazy - calling her 'anti-transgender' - when all she's saying is sex is real, acting like they're baffled at what she's got a problem with

Her Twitter post appeared to be responding to a liine that described the "menstrual health and hygiene needs of girls, women and all people who menstruate - ie. making it sound like she was being awful, picking the longer line from within the article, when it was clearly the headline of the article: Creating a More Equal Post-Covid-19 World for People Who Menstruate

Absolute fuckers the lot of them with their faux wide-eyed, determination to stamp down the woman asserting her rights.

Floisme · 08/06/2020 09:54

I have never trusted a word Caroline Hirons has written.

Fluffycloudland77 · 08/06/2020 09:46

Her advice might work for others but it’s not exactly worked for her if she’s having Botox. Her under eye areas very damaged/aged.

Newby Hands is very good, and hasn’t hidden her Botox to my knowledge. She was advocating sunblock every day in 1999, or NoySkincare on insta.

ShagMeRiggins · 08/06/2020 09:27

Caroline Hirons 🙄 there’s far too much worship of her.

Her skin care information is nonpareil. I don’t follow her for the politics, I follow her for the skincare analysis.

McDuffy · 08/06/2020 09:26

Did you see David Baddiel retweeted one of Jonathan's (super reasonable agreeing-to-disagree) replies? I thought he might be on our side... Come on over, David!

Lottapianos · 08/06/2020 09:10

'Caroline Hirons 🙄 there’s far too much worship of her."

Couldn't agree more. I was so disgusted with her Twitter thread. She has four children (which she never shuts up about) and is peri menopausal (which she never shuts up about) but is prepared to pretend that female biology isn't a thing, just for woke cookies? Shes ridiculous

SoberCurious · 08/06/2020 08:42

💛 JKR

Fluffycloudland77 · 08/06/2020 08:35

Caroline Hirons 🙄 there’s far too much worship of her.

LaureBerthaud · 08/06/2020 07:31

I don't really do twitter but I've taken a look at some of the tweets attacking JKR and honestly - I'm aghast! Fine, disagree with her comments (I don't!) but the language used, the abuse ... how can they take the moral high ground?

Lottapianos · 08/06/2020 07:00

Good for him. We need more men and women with a public platform to support JK, rather than calling her a 'twat' and telling her to 'get in the bin' like, say, Caroline Hirons Hmm