Scottish Government redefines "woman" in law.

and being described by others in written or other communication as a woman.

Thus making it absolutely imperative to insist others accede to your demands about pronouns, including those times when they give evidence under oath. Maria MacLachlan was forced to do so in an English court not a Scottish one but if it hasn't happened already, it's only a matter of time.

In what other area of the law would compelling others to lie in such a material way not be considered either duress or perverting the course of justice?

Does this definition of women in Scottish Law only apply to public boards currently?

I realise this is the first step, I imagine, to rolling it out as self-ID in other ways, under Scottish law, I'm just wondering what the thinking was to have it only apply in this law...

Boeufsurletoit yes, this cartoon used to be a joke now it’s reality

So what can be done? We need Baroness Barry to advise I guess. When I was little I thought Helena Kennedy was rather impressive but I haven't heard anything about her for a long time (to be honest I'm almost afraid to look these days) - would she be someone who might tackle this?

It is really really shocking. I feel like crying.

So many hot potato issues can just be hand waved away with magic words and statistical fuckery.

Magical words and statistical fuckery is very apt.

What an absolute shit show. The amount of contempt I have for these political 'useful idiots' is pretty much a bottomless well.

There must be a way to legally challenge this appalling abuse of power.

Is it cynical of me to think that a lot of politicians won't mind if counting transwomen as women balances out some of those tricky domestic violence and political gender-balance stats mentioned on this thread? I'm new to all of this so sorry if I'm stating something very obvious. I'm horrified at the implications of this.

I like that Oh it really clarifies the breadth of the issue
I described it to my husband as “the SNP idiots have now made it law that a committee made of 12 can have 12 penis’ around the table & it’s considered equality” (but more sweary)

Lordfrontpaw Slightly more than one sentence, but in a nutshell:

Gender Representation on Public Boards (Scotland) Act 2018 aims to have boards comprised of at least 50% women...but

• the definition of women ONLY includes those men who qualify, does not mention those born female
• men qualify if they have documentation (eg. gas bill) in a feminine name, and use female pronouns - but no-one is allowed to ask the candidate about these
• Scotgov only held a public consultation about this definition AFTER the law was passed, then ignored the majority of responses which complained about the definition
• Scotgov may not have the authority to introduce legislation which change the definitions in the reserved Equality Act, it undermines its provisions.

Hi Lord will this do

Nicola thinks men can be women and this is to be enshrined in Scottish law so women, as a group or category, now includes men.

For instance, speaking at an event on the political representation of women in 2018, Liberal Democrat President Sally Brinton stated that she would be happy with a ‘gender-balanced’ parliament made up of 50% men and 50% trans women.

She - who also argued that mixed sex toilets aren’t a risk for women/girls because women are also sex offenders - conveniently forgetting the vast majority of sex offenders are male and the vast majority of victims are female.

I will never forgive nor forget the women and men who steamroll over women's rights like this.

The list is now rather long.

Can one of you please send any tweets about this to baroness Nicholson on Twitter.
I have emailed her but she is busy and may not see my email for days.

That’s too short...

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Can someone give it to me in one sentence - I’m just going to tell my sister who seems to think the sun now shines out of wee Nic’s backside. I haven’t the strength to distil it down to a short message.

AAAAAGH!!!!!

There is only ONE way to live as a woman and that is to BE* a fucking woman!

I won't give up. I remain optimistic. There will be an end to this shit!

Thanks Alice

Dances, Jack McKelvie. He's deleted some of his comments but he seems connected to people like Cameron Archibald. He was also bemoaning the new independence Party stand on women's rights, claiming they "hated people for who they are".

twitter.com/SofonisbaAngui7/status/1259182522862383105?s=20

Who is Christina McKelvie's son Alice?

Does that mean it's too late for a judicial review?

I'm so disgusted by the constant undermining of women's rights. They take our definitions from us as well.

For instance, speaking at an event on the political representation of women in 2018, Liberal Democrat President Sally Brinton stated that she would be happy with a ‘gender-balanced’ parliament made up of 50% men and 50% trans women.

I will never forgive nor forget the women and men who steamroll over women's rights like this.

Also up for letter writing, a JR fundraiser.

ForWomenScot will be along to advise I think.

Just read through this thread and I now literally feel sick. I have Scottish roots and have always thought that if England goes the way I dread, I could relocate to Scotland where people are more sensible. But no.