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How feminist views change as you get older

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Michelleoftheresistance · 04/06/2020 18:52

Or films that make you go hmm....

I remember being shown several key women's films while I was doing A levels and at university, in one case studying women writers. Shirley Valentine was one, Educating Rita was another. I got the general key messages at the time: women trying to escape the stereotypes to be more, to be allowed to be themselves, to seek their own fulfilment instead of someone else's, the unfairness of societal roles.

I saw Educating Rita again a few days ago, not having seen it in decades, and it was like watching a completely different film. For a start, when I first saw it as a teenager, I saw Rita as a mature student, an adult much older than me, where I watch it now and think she's early twenties, she's so young and there's vulnerability there I hadn't seen.

But the key message of that film for me watching it now is a triangle of incompetent males who were certain they could be happy if they could force Rita to be who they wanted. Her abusive father, her horrible husband, the creepy professor. All males, incapable of taking responsibility for themselves or their problems, trying to compel a woman to turn herself in to what they needed to fix them, and punishing her when she didn't do it right or it didn't work, or she dared to have boundaries.

Totally different insights. And don't get me started on My Fair Lady....

Has anyone else found their perspectives have shifted radically with different stages in their lives?

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Kit19 · 04/06/2020 19:25

Good morning Vietnam- when I was younger I didn’t see anything wrong with Robin Williams character following the Vietnamese girl he fancied & bribing his way into the school to teach her. Now I’m urrrghhhhhhhhhhh

CaraDune · 04/06/2020 19:15

The snog in the Empire Strikes Back - as a teen, the stuff of which my early romantic fantasies were made. As an adult. Hmm

Mrs Doubtfire seemed hilarious when I was a teen too, now it just gives me the creeps.

Somehow even as a teen, though, I had the nous to see the ending of Grease as downright creepy - turn yourself into someone you're not to win the love of the bad boy. Erm, no thanks.

On the other hand the one I watch and think "no one would make an all-female ensemble piece like this any more" is Nine to Five.

Apollo440 · 04/06/2020 18:59

Yes I remember watching fiddler on the roof and sympathising with the girls. Now I'm with the parents and I worry about them.