Changes to NHS gender dysphoria website page re puberty blockers

I have just read James Kirkup's excellent article in the Spectator about the very quiet introduction of this change to the NHS advice website. It does not give one a great deal of confidence in the evidence base they have been using which has knock on effects on the integrity of way they choose which information to present.
However, did this site previously feature a first hand account from a parent which was also quietly dropped?

Thank you to James for covering this

Thanks for the link, Mermoose, off to read that now!

Would

Stupid possessed phone

Kind of related - Jesse Singal has a good article in Unherd about the chilling effect on scientists exploring this issue. A paper was retracted by a neuroscience journal after pressure from trans campaigners because it posited an alternative theory about the cause of gender dysphoria.

unherd.com/2020/06/eneuro/

They dont care about the kids or they eoyod want accurate information in order for them and their families to make decisions. Given they are trying to get self ID through so they dont have to take many medications whatsoever with many of the prominent figures having been older transitioners so never even took blockers ,they seem.awfully invested in putting kids on a path they cant come back from. And they cant even speak from.experience from.blockers.

Tara Hewitt of Teli is tweeting that the updated information makes adult men (aka trans women) working in the NHS, feel unsafe

And why should children and their parents be denied access to vital information in order to make Tara and Tara's mates feel "safe"?

This is a babystep, but an important one.

Reported on by James Kirkup:

www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-nhs-has-quietly-changed-its-trans-guidance-to-reflect-reality/amp?__twitter_impression=true

"To some, the first question that occurs here is: why has it taken the NHS so long to say these things?

There are other questions too. Some are about some relatively minor points of process: why has the NHS so significantly changed its main publication on hormone treatment for children without any announcement or fanfare? There is nothing on that page to reveal the change beyond a footnote that the page was revised on May 28 and giving no details. (The only way to read the old text is via the excellent Wayback Machine.)

But some of the questions arising from that change are rather bigger. Given that the NHS now says that hormone therapy for gender-variant children has unknown long-term effects on the physical and mental health of those children, why is the NHS still using such treatments on children?

And what are the children and parents who were reassured by those earlier NHS words supposed to think now that the same service that issued those treatments is now admitting it doesn’t know what their long-term effects will be?"

Yes keep it secret. Don’t give accurate information

It’s bonkers.

mobile.twitter.com/SerenThomas_/status/1268452614791991298

Posting accurate information about medications given to children is now transphobic.

And people still aren’t convinced the allegations that Mumsnet is transphobic are vexatious bullshit.

What does it have to do with adult males?

Tara Hewitt of Teli is tweeting that the updated information makes adult men (aka trans women) working in the NHS, feel unsafe.....which sums up perfectly the reality that mens feelings are much more important than potentially sterilising pre pubescent children. Their position is appalling

Excellent news.

I wonder if there are any NHS plans to contact the hundreds of children currently taking blockers and their parents?

It would be very worrying, having been assured it's all fine and reversible, to read this and be left alone to deal with it.

They'll probably just be gaslit and told they gave fully informed consent :(

Definitely good news.
Would love to know the process/trigger!

Thanks Scrimp & pope, will add those to the ever-growing pile of open tabs.

Whatever anyone's personal stance on trans issues, the NHS needs to be transparent about the reality of using these medicines.

The "reversible" thing always confused me. It was my understanding that male children who took blockers could end up with essentially a micropenis. Surely that is not reversible?
I'll admit I dont know much about it so I'm not gonna pretend to be an authority.

All I know is virtually no medicine has no side effects and no risks for taking it long term.

Sweden thread here re children and surgery www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3907069-Good-news-from-Sweden

Tyro, covered here: www.theguardian.com/society/2020/feb/22/ssweden-teenage-transgender-row-dysphoria-diagnoses-soar

Does look like arse-covering, though it's a step in the right direction in terms of the notion of "informed consent".

Which was the Swedish turnaround? I think I missed that.

Very interesting. From a legal perspective, I wonder how they’re addressing all of those children who are on puberty blockers and did so based on the good faith of the “fully reversible” myth?

Very interesting, I guess we do not know what prompted this?

Maybe the recent Swedish turnaround had an impact, too.

Yep, these drugs are prescribed off label - all the profits & none of the liability for the drug companies