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Scotland Sex ed lesson - How to be a girl

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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 18:51

I'm in Scotland. We got sent a link to the P6 (that's Primary 6, 9-11 year olds) sex ed resources today.

This video is recommended as part of the 'transgender' section.

It appears to have been made by an anonymous Canadian mother.

I find it deeply offensive, utterly ridiculous and I can only imagine it would be confusing, upsetting and possibly harmful for any children watching it.

Boys can wear pink without being female. It's so basic!

I will be making a complaint. I signed up for the consultation for these resources, but I can't remember this video being included at the time, or I certainly would have said something then.

Here's the resource page, for anyone who wants to read further.

rshp.scot/second-level/

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Miriel · 20/05/2020 06:21

This is incredibly creepy. It also uses the TRA trick of comparing GNC women to individuals who aren't women, by listing 'girls with penises' alongside girls who have short hair or are plumbers. No, these are not equivalent statements. (And 'girls' generally can't be plumbers anyway. Women can, of course.)

Between the ages of about three and five I insisted that I wasn't a girl but a certain animal. I used to daydream about super-intelligent versions of this animal arriving from another planet and taking me back to their homeworld with them, where I was really from. I'm glad that my parents didn't agree that I was an animal or an alien! It scares me that if I were a child now and I picked 'boy' instead, I could be told that the stuff in my imagination was reality. I was actually a little autistic girl who didn't feel like she fit in on this planet so made up stories about a better one.

VortexofBloggery · 20/05/2020 00:35

I had a look at the sex Ed guidance on the resource link and in the FAQ section it states:
Q: Do girls get erections?
A: Girls don’t get erections because they don’t have penises.
So that's reassuring at least.

PositiveVibez · 20/05/2020 00:11

My daughter has been getting in bed with me throughout through the pandemic. Soz husband Wink but she is a sensitive soul.

The first thing she said to me when we woke up 'i really want to fight for the rights of women in America for proper maternity leave and I also want to fight for the rights that people under 18 don't get puberty blockers'

She is 11 and in primary school.

I can only hope I haven't forced her decisions, which my DH is always telling me off for, but I have allowed her to come to an informed decision after giving all the facts.

And YES boys can wear skirts and girls can wear pants.

Gender constructs need fucking destroying. And my daughter realises that. At the grand old age of 11

PositiveVibez · 20/05/2020 00:04

That has made me feel really angry and really sad.

I am FUMING 😠😠😠😠

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 23:13

I'd say the only organization it might be well suited for would be the Scientologists.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 23:05

I don't think it's of a suitable standard to be used in school resources, whoever it's aimed at, tbh.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 23:04

If it's aimed at adults then what are all the pretendy children's drawings for?

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 23:03

This is not the biology lesson I will be giving my children.

I might let them know about inequality of outcomes when it comes to heart health.

www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/news-from-the-bhf/news-archive/2019/september/heart-attack-gender-gap-is-costing-womens-lives

(screenshot from 'Don't give up' vid by the maker of the 'How to be a girl' video.)

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=qnmydC8EWCg&feature=emb_logo

Scotland Sex ed lesson - How to be a girl
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ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 22:54

Thanks, OldCrone. That's a small relief, then.

We got sent a link to the whole resource, which is mostly (at a quick glance) standard sex ed, bodies, menstruation, pregnancy, etc. Perfectly reasonable. And from when the consultation was done, I don't remember this video.

The thing is, part of me was thinking 'if only they'd include a reasonable, logical, down to earth view' in this section ...

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OldCrone · 19/05/2020 22:42

Did they say that the video was supposed to be shown to children? There's a link to it from the activity plan. It says on there:

Parents/carers who are communicating with teachers/educators about a child who is expressing their wish to be identified as transgender might be interested in this blog with animations, produced by a mother of a transgender child, it tells the story of their experience together

There's nothing about it being used for teaching/indoctrinating children.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 22:42

I like Dances' suggestion as a pragmatic way to get this creepy culty bollocks away from children.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 22:41

Trust the Catholic when she says she hears whispered Hail Marys

I should never have doubted you, Mother!

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 22:41

Unless she means "because the shop said it couldn't be returned" then she's a bit overdramatic, isn't she?

Dances · 19/05/2020 22:39

Seriously? With all that Hail Mary shit going on in it? I do think Scotland's serious Sectarian issues might well be the solution to this.

Get this in the Old firm football boards. This going on in schools? Both sides will kick it to the kerb

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 22:38

Here's a podcast from the same mother called 'playdates with Christians'.

www.howtobeagirlpodcast.com/episodes/episode-xxvii-playdates-with-christians

She honestly seems quite disturbed. 'There's this anxious hum in the background all the time' - no shit.

Also, this dress apparently means that there's 'no going back'. Not sure what that means - once a boy puts on a pink dress then his life is changed forever?

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 22:26

It's setting people's hair on edge because it's designed to mess with your head. The weird music, the whispering in the background, the pretend children's drawings, the whole thing is an attempt to discombobulate the viewer so their perspective can be manipulated. It's creepy as fuck.

Graffitiqueen · 19/05/2020 22:26

@ScrimpshawTheSecond thanks. I have a p6 and I'm very concerned about this video.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 22:23

That video really is disturbing, it's like some sort of LSD induced cult recruitment propaganda. Children are often convinced of things that are absolutely false, because their brains aren't finished developing yet and they have very little life experience. I guess it's good the kid didn't spend a year insisting that they were a dog or a horse or something, who knows what insane shit the mother would have done then.

FloralBunting · 19/05/2020 22:22

Trust the Catholic when she says she hears whispered Hail Marys Grin

allthedamnvampires · 19/05/2020 22:21

How did this make its way into the curriculum? Spooky weird claptrap. The bit about deciding who gets to be a girl would have made my 10 year old self very anxious. Even then I understood about safe spaces for women only, which are being eroded through abuse of the ability to self-select gender.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 22:16

Holy fuck, Floral. I was about to gently suggest you needed some fresh air, because I couldn't hear the Hail Marys, but you're right. Very faintly in the background. What the ever living hell is going on?

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FloralBunting · 19/05/2020 21:58

Seriously - the first couple of minutes of the video have a backing track of a group of female voices repeating the Hail Mary over and over. Adding that to the later plinky plonky music and the disturbing stuff about the little boy who never existed, why in the name of sanity would anyone be showing this to kids?

Yes, the content is ridiculous nonsense, but the tone of the whole thing makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, and I've no reason to find the Hail Mary sinister in and of itself.

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 21:39

LadyDoc1, I can only presume this is Scotland wide. The resource is for all of Scotland, I believe. It's the standard curriculum.

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Lowhum · 19/05/2020 21:38

No idea whether this is real or not, but handing a 3 year old that much power is setting them up for a fall.

I don’t understand why the mother didn’t want the child to name themselves Rainbow, I thought kids had the capacity to make life long decisions...

Also, the video reminded me of salad fingers (shudder).

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 19/05/2020 21:38

Yep, I'm pretty aghast at it. Hard to know where to even start, really.

Dear Sirs and Madams

WHAT THE FUCK?

I think the part where she talks about feeling like her son had been a dream and never really existed is really disturbing. I feel that this woman seems to have mental health issues, and I cannot believe that the govt have, after extensive consultations and careful deliberation, decided that this resource is of a standard and ethic suitable for schools to promote.

I checked the mother's blog - she is on a hiatus now, apparently, after some unexplained but darkly hinted at crisis last year. I'm sorry for her, but again cannot understand how and why this is seen as suitable for educational material.

Graffiti, I'll pm you. Bit concerned it might be a bit outing to say where I am.

Latin, I presume this is now available for teaching, it's how it was presented to us, via the school.

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