More 'stuff that doesn't happen Paws, why are you getting your knickers in a twist?' Chapter 897

Given the comment about covering the Equality Act it will have been linked to the usual suspects in some way.

The PSHE sex education materials on the PSHE association website are for members, however there is one link I found on the website about trans pupils:

www.pshe-association.org.uk/system/files/Factsheet%20-%20Transition%20of%20pupil.pdf

Yes, fall, and that porn damages males to the point of being unable to enjoy sex or maintain an erection without it.

I am really fed up with the society-wide idea that it is always wrong to have any kind of morals about anything associated with sex.

Why? Morals, or morality, is essentially about values and ideas about right and wrong. Why on earth should ideas about right and wrong ways of treating other people be thrown out the window, whenever the subject is sex, including the entire sex industry?

I know that people associate the concept of morals with prudishness, and a complete clamp down on all things sexual, but male sexual entitlement enthusiast have really done a number on us here.

I’d say it is not just acceptable, but a goddam requirement, to take a stand about the sex industry. Schools should be allowed to teach children that porn is exploitative, and usually treats women appallingly.

If these resources aimed to teach children that, without showing examples or going into detail, I’d be ok with teaching about porn.

"The PSHE materials that we share with students are produced in line with government guidance,the PSHE Association Programmes of Study and the Sex Education Forum’s definition of Sex Education. They also cover the Equality Act of 2010.
Gavin Williamson needs to get a grip on this quickly.

Teenage parent doesn't equal bad parent. I'd say Mrs Taylor is doing just fine if she's prepared to advocate for her daughter.

Astonishingly whilst most of the btl posts are supportive of Mrs Taylor there a couple criticising her for having had her first child when she was a teenager, including a spectacularly nasty one which I'm not going to repeat.

On the off chance Mrs Taylor sees this- well done you and why aren't more parents complaining.

Why cringing- should she not be allowed to be interested in these things?

I take your point that they are harmless interests and age appropriate, but havIng had my more self-conscious child recently go up to high school, I think the Mum could have made her point without opening her child up to ridicule by less kind peers.

"Teachers at Archbishop Sentamu Academy in east Hull asked the 11 to 14-year-olds to "define" pornography, soft pornography, hardcore pornography and transsexual pornography, as well as female genital mutilation, wet dreams, trafficking, male circumcision, breast ironing and more"

Hiding in plain sight.

There's a famous quote, something about not being able to define pornography but that you know it when you see it.

So it's highly unlikely an 11 year old could define it unless they had already been exposed or they went looking for it. For most 11 year olds this question from a school is bound to induce curiosity.

Just hugely irresponsible and inappropriate.

I think porn should be discussed with older children but not like this.

But I’m also cringing for the girl

The 34-year-old said: "My daughter is still very much a child, we've still got magic elves, her bedroom is done in My Little Pony. She is very innocent and naive

Why cringing- should she not be allowed to be interested in these things?

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Another good thing. the 34 year old mum and 25 year old big brother are on the record as not finding this appropriate. But maybe they are both members of that international lesbian conspiracy?

this is a plus side of lockdown and kids learning from home, parents are more likely to see the inappropriate material their kids are being exposed to at school

Yes! I've just made a post on this!

The 34-year-old said: "My daughter is still very much a child, we've still got magic elves, her bedroom is done in My Little Pony. She is very innocent and naive.
The 34-year-old said: "My daughter is still very much a child, we've still got magic elves, her bedroom is done in My Little Pony. She is very innocent and naive.

It's horrific.

She would've been looking at injuries to women's vaginas, anuses and breasts that are so extreme, the viewer is meant to think they could be fatal.

And in five years, if proponents get their way, she could be that woman.

Awful.

But I’m also cringing for the girl:

The 34-year-old said: "My daughter is still very much a child, we've still got magic elves, her bedroom is done in My Little Pony. She is very innocent and naive.

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Jesus Christ.

If they're going to learn about anal, they need to be shown an anal prolapse and colostomy bags. They need to be shown the study that describes how the vast majority of girls don't want it, and the exact number of boys who don't care. They could be given the useful concept of 'You First'.

They need to be told that beastiality is illegal. And the sorts of men who go to prison for it. And how long prison sentences are.

'We don't consent to this' website should also be accessed. And why it was necessary.

And if they have to learn about trans porn, they should also be told about the trans advocates for extreme porn. And how the viewer has orgasms, on the back of being left in some doubt as to whether or not the woman in question has been killed, because that is soo arousing. And that one of the trans-advocates for extreme porn claims they were consulted about child safeguarding at girl guides and was consulted by our government, on women's rights to boundaries.

And don't get started on the boys. Do they get shown the Italian study describing how a significant number of teenage boys were unable to get an erection, unless they were viewing pornography at the same time?

Because that's definitely something you want to put in their stocking at Christmas.

The line must be surely that if you receive messages photos etc that you don’t understand or want, you need to tell somebody trustworthy...hard to know who these are these days though.

It could make for an awkward World Book day if someone comes wearing only two staples.

Wow, that's all types of wrong.

Does anyone know if the bodily damage that can caused by sex acts such as anal are taught? Or is teaching them that seen as some type of ' kink shaming'?

Grooming in plain sight.

They will know about it from their phones, or the phone of the nasty boy who sits near them. Girls will be under increasing pressure to supply photos to prove they are not a frigid lesbian, etc.

It is a part of their world, sadly, and they will have to learn to deal with it, and you can draw a parallel with drugs education where they will be asked to learn the slang names and describe the effects of taking various products etc.

But 11 is way too early for that, and certainly not to be attempted online. The emphasis needs to be on learning to say no assertively.

I think mentioning it in year 6 is sort of ok, as long as it’s made clear that at their age it’s illegal.

It doesn’t need to go into specifics.

I think it does need mentioning due to the fact they are going into year 7 and will hear lots more.

But this level of depth is not needed