Creepy AGP reviews on M&S website

What's AGM?

I think it is Autocorrect for AGP,

These reviews have been there for years. I refuse to buy pants a man thinks are great for his hairy arse and bits.

About 25 yrs ago I worked somewhere were we sold underwear. Not a high street shop and it was a side line. I was a teenager and I had to fit men for Bras all the time. It was uncomfortable to say the least.

What's AGM?

Isn’t it depressing that fetishists are now so encouraged to take their fetish out in public (not to mention the added bonus of forcing other people to participate) that we now have skeevy M&S fucking reviews. Bloody hell. I’m sure blokes have been buying M&S underwear for longer than I’ve been alive, but this is next level gross. Yet another slow encroachment into female space. I read clothing reviews all the time, and do not want to be forced to read about how much penis room is available in some floral knickers.

And I bet M&S would hesitate to delete these reviews too... because inclusivity.

Mine too as I have 2 dds...

I can't afford to buy loads and return all the time

It's the teen girls who're my biggest concern though. Where are they meant to go if all the chains have been hijacked?

Yeah, there's no surprise at all to the fact that the big chains have been targeted first and hardest. In addition to the bragging rights they're generally run by the kind of committees that are easy to Stonewall into compliance.

You should be ok. Those places are few and far between these days. And no one takes their teens to somewhere where its 50 quid for one bra when u can get a 2 pack for 12 quid.

Plus lets face it no ones gonna give a shit about a shop they havent heard of. JL and m&s are the big guns far more enjoyable to brainwash them and post the whole thing on twitter

I really hope there isn't a rush to invade the independent lingerie stores, which have always been the best places to get fitted imo. First one I went to the woman doing the fitting was about 60 and made the whole process a lot less unpleasant than it could have been.

So women won't get chance to say no because they won't be asked. I can't imagine the person in question, says "btw I'm biologically male can we carry on?"

In some places you have to book bra fittings you cant just walk in. I have no where local that does proper bra fitting as we only have an m&s who I dont trust although many do. But I'd they pulled the same stunt elsewhere which JL appears to have been done....

I took dd to debenhams I had to book online and it was a 30 min drive or 45 min bus ride there , and my email would say "see you at 2.30 for your fit with diane" , well what do you do? U need the fitting, you booked online, no one else is free to take over...you are basically forced arent you

I suspect that if anyone said no I want a woman the person whose services were being declined would cause a massive scene. Which women will know, and which will impact how comfortable they feel asking for a woman.

My only worry is are women allowed to say no I want a woman

For all we know this person could "pass" quite well and then sadly women will be unaware. Or they may be aware but not be confident to say anything. Women are very conditioned not to upset anyone.

So women won't get chance to say no because they won't be asked. I can't imagine the person in question, says "btw I'm biologically male can we carry on?"

The idea seems to be that being a woman is inherently humiliating and if someone "forces" you into it then that's sexy. The dreaded Kiwi Farms which we're supposed to apologize for being aware of has gazillions of men like that whose adventures they chronicle.

Is it a humiliation thing? Like the man at Victoria station who was being lead around on a dog lead by a dominatrix (now I assume she was being paid, but what about everyone else in the audience Concorse?)

And laughing our heads off and saying how repugnant they are? Is that what passes as a ‘turn on’ these days?

For some men it absolutely does. This is why men with a sissification fetish are the worst people in the world to deal with because there is literally nothing you can say to them that they can't turn into a source of wanking material.

Shouldn't Marks & Spencer's be putting a plastic strip all the way inside up the front, and over the top, now? If it's about hygiene, it needs to reflect the anatomy involved.

I'd never thought about it, but men's pants don't have a hygiene strip (TBH, the pants I bought recently for me didn't have one either - perhaps supermarkets don't bother these days).

Is it that vulvas are considered ickier than penises? Is it that men aren't expected to try pants on (does anything stop them though?)

This is something I'm going to think about whenever I'm in the boxers section now.

My 'friend' ran a little experiment with M&S customer service recently. She (adult human female) claimed to be a trans woman and made a complaint. She also submitted the same complaint without claiming to be anything other than an adult human female. Guess what happened? Her complaint as herself was completely ignored whilst her complaint as a trans woman was replied to within the day and £50 in vouchers sent as 'compensation' for her distress. I'd love to think I was making this up but I'm not

This is awful. Perhaps she should submit the mails to Baroness Nicholson.

They not that sorry.

A transwoman working as a bra fitter
In and of itself I have no problem with this. My only worry is are women allowed to say no I want a woman. Will m and s say well that are a woman, take them or dont bother. Are the women bold enough to say no in the first place. I guarantee in my late teens I may have felt badly and been worried more about how they would feel at my rejection than how I would feel after. So probably would have gone on with it feeling bloody terrible.

A transwoman working as a bra fitter? And they say there are no incentives for men to transition!

Shouldn't Marks & Spencer's be putting a plastic strip all the way inside up the front, and over the top, now? If it's about hygiene, it needs to reflect the anatomy involved

Perhaps we should ask them.

I've seen men reviewing bras from the "Angel" first bra range too

Ugh - that's grim.

I've buy my knickers on line. Do shop ones still have the plastic strip in the gusset?

Shouldn't Marks & Spencer's be putting a plastic strip all the way inside up the front, and over the top, now? If it's about hygiene, it needs to reflect the anatomy involved.

M&S vet every review before publishing. So they are well aware of the issue. But as we know from their changing rooms policy (there is a men's changing room in my M&S but not one designated as women's -even though it is at the back of the lingerie department), they have utter disdain for their core market.

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