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Creepy AGP reviews on M&S website

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WhereAreWeNow · 17/05/2020 15:28

I've noticed quite a few online reviews from men of M&S lingerie. These knickers are the latest I've seen. 3 reviews, 2 of which are by men.
I get the feeling that the review is part of the AGP fetish. It reminds me of flashing in that it's intended to make women/girls feel uncomfortable/shocked/embarrassed. I've seen men reviewing bras from the "Angel" first bra range too.

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TheProdigalKittensReturn · 25/05/2020 20:56

Please do send the Baroness a link to the "notes from a fetish" reviews above!

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/05/2020 14:45

Wow, that's a list for the Baroness!

SunsetBeetch · 24/05/2020 14:32

A twitter poster has found a forum dedicated to male wearers of women's lingerie. M&S features heavily:

twitter.com/worriedmumofone/status/1264316614637498372?s=19

"1. This forum is for Male wearers of stockings & lingerie and discusses specifically how to target M&S, best times to go, easiest stores to access, you name it. Sample user photos attached for reference below @Baroness_Nichol

t.co/YDo3dgB29w

t.co/RqO4Zk5SUK "

"Bra fitting around young girls: t.co/RqO4Zk5SUK "

"User tries on “in broad daylight” in M&S

t.co/NJMMvgOSsh t.co/bTRFOVkVgX "

t.co/YDo3dgB29w

"General advice on how to target M&S. Assistants “really couldn’t care less” about you and the “thrill of your first lingerie purchase” t.co/N1McuWlJ0m "

"M&S is great as it’s full of families and no one bats an eyelid if you check the crotch of lingerie for stretch to accommodate the Male form. Staff don’t care he says. Adds to the thrill he says. t.co/dd4g8pQMXe "

"M&S Metro Centre, North East is the hot ticket to get sexual thrills around innocent customers - same types that use our changing rooms there apparently

t.co/HI9yb7eSjE t.co/2GVLTQEV7A "

"Worcester M&S - zero respect for boundaries of staff that work there from these men t.co/9rxvbyy7Bd "

"Shrewsbury & Merryhill branches are good targets for men to try on “sexy panties” as look... the staff don’t care t.co/YmzFacyVD2 "

"https://t.co/yVov6JVPVO Cardiff M&S - trying on panties and sharing photos online. Seems to be a thing on StockingsHQ. t.co/YmOuXfQiDv "

langclegflavoredbananamush · 24/05/2020 13:11

The reviews are all still there.

Thanks, I'd mistakenly clicked on "what customers say..."
[facepalm]

EmpressLangClegInChair · 24/05/2020 08:37

I’m not sure that’s a bad thing, for a bit anyway. Sunlight.

Clymene · 24/05/2020 07:15

The reviews are all still there.

Creepy AGP reviews on M&S website
Creepy AGP reviews on M&S website
Creepy AGP reviews on M&S website
LizziesTwin · 24/05/2020 06:33

Baroness Nicholson welcomes evidence as she needs proof of institutional capture to be able to call it out. She doesn’t have an email address listed but you can reach her via
[email protected] stating the email is for her.

Wagamamas · 24/05/2020 05:04

Amazon period pants have reviews from a cross dresser called 'chris'. Amazon wont let me report them. Disgusting.

langclegflavoredbananamush · 24/05/2020 04:53

I looked at the link in the original post, and couldn't see the reviews...
has M&S edited them out?
Since Baroness Nicholson is looking for concrete examples of problems with M&S, it would be good to show them to her....

Lordfrontpaw · 22/05/2020 09:07

Seem to have stopped bothering - feminism has become a swear word almost.

Lordfrontpaw · 22/05/2020 09:07

Indeed. I guess it shows that society only has a light veneer of balance.

Women have up bothering about women’s rights because they assumed their mums and previous gen of women had done all the hard lifting and it was all done.

Michelleoftheresistance · 22/05/2020 08:51

Can't think, Clymene but you could also add able bodied, affluent, educated and straight to many of the leading voices pressuring places like M&S.

In terms of a campaign, it's quite remarkable what a political lobby minority group can achieve in terms of influence and outcomes, and at what speed, when they're straight, white, able bodied, affluent, educated and male.

Clymene · 19/05/2020 22:26

Isn't it interesting how the rights of mainly white transwomen are much more important that the rights of ethnic minority women?

I wonder why that might be? Hmm

Lordfrontpaw · 19/05/2020 17:09

Not yet - I'm just going to sit and read it over a nice cup of tea and a kitkat and have a chortle (I do write a good missive).

Can anyone DM me with her contact details?

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 16:49

Have you sent it to her? Might be worth doing if not.

Lordfrontpaw · 19/05/2020 16:47

I hope she is going after john lewis. I have just collated six pages of my correspondence with them on the matter (and no I didn't get an actual answer).

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 19/05/2020 16:46

Well done, that woman!

Datun · 19/05/2020 16:42

Well Baroness Nicholson has written a stonking letter to Marks & Spencer basically asking them what the fuck they're playing at.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3913143-Did-anyone-write-to-M-S-Re-changing-rooms?msgid=96670794#96670794

Lordfrontpaw · 19/05/2020 15:59

If women were doing that there'd be guard dogs and barbed wire around the knicker section and men's changing rooms.

Maduixa · 19/05/2020 15:53

I remember seeing an article on the M&S reviews a while ago from one of the trash tabs (DM? Scottish Sun? Something like that), probably cribbed from MN. The comments were full of nudge-nudge-wink-winkery and the implication that male bonding over trying on (and possibly, er, relieving oneself in) undergarments designed for women is completely understandable and trivial.

I think this is one of those things that yer average bloke just doesn't "get", because there's no reverse equivalent that's comparable. If a woman posted about masturbating in the fitting room in a pair of Cool 'n' Fresh Ombre Print Boxers and then putting them back on the shelf, it would probably IMPROVE M&S's sales. Used laydeez knickers sell for far more than new ones on eBay, for example, and women are not the target market.

Lordfrontpaw · 19/05/2020 15:48

Like Kinky Boots? So M&S (or S&M perhaps) Kinky Pants?

Bananabixfloof · 19/05/2020 15:24

perhaps they've started designing for their niche market
I believe they have. I also believe they should shout this far and wide. Advertising innit.

MoltenLasagne · 19/05/2020 15:22

If they fit men then they won't fit me, what with the lack of extra bits. I had thought some of the new pants M&S advertised looked a bit "pouchy", perhaps they've started designing for their niche market?

Bananabixfloof · 19/05/2020 15:02

What's AGM
Annual general meeting?

If you mean AGP its Autogynephelia. A condition where men get there rocks off at womens expense.