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Good news from Sweden!

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 12/05/2020 15:17

The Swedish National Board of Health and Welfare has changed their mind - they will not be approving gender corrective surgery for children below the age of 18.

www.svt.se/nyheter/granskning/ug/socialstyrelsen-andrar-sig-ej-lampligt-med-konskorrigerande-kirurgi-innan-18

In 2018, the government proposed a new law that would allow sex-corrective genital surgery from the age of 15, without the custodian's permission. The bill was heavily criticized by the law council, but the National Board of Health endorsed the proposal.

The authority even wanted to go further than the government - the bill stated that a prerequisite for surgery was that the person must be assumed to live in the same gender identity in the future. But the National Board of Health considered that surgery should not be "linked to whether the gender identity can be assumed to be the same over time".

An investigative TV program looked into how this decision had been reached and showed that "factual" information that politicians and the health authority had based proposal on was false. After the programme went out and other media shone light onto the flawed decision making process, the Government commissioned the National Board of Health and Welfare to analyse and assess whether the proposed age limit of 15 years is appropriate.

When the report is now presented, the National Board of Health and Welfare makes a complete reversal. They no longer think that the age limit should be lowered.

  • I don't really think it matters what we have said before. We have not felt bound by it, but have investigated this question from the beginning and looked at the information we have now, says Thomas Lindén.

This is good news for the children of Sweden. Of course it would be better if irrevocable surgery was delayed until after the brain has finished maturing around the age of 25, but as a first step it inspires hope that bad decisions can be reversed when they are shown to have been based on misrepresentation of the facts.

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 12/05/2020 16:13

Why did it take the media to point out that the information underlying the proposal was false? Is there any appetite for the people putting these policies in place to check facts themselves, and do they have the skills to do so?

Because their politicians had been fed the exact same lies that our own politicians here in the UK have swallowed. Convincing them that any criticism of the transcult is hate speech, vile bigotry and will destroy their careers. Just listen to Dawn Butler, Jo Swinson, or the women who stood for the Labour leader position. Either they don't have the time/interest/intelligence to look into the details, listen to other viewpoints and make their own minds up, or (even worse) they have done so, know exactly what is going on, and have coldly decided that it is politically expedient for them to sacrifice women and children in the furtherance of their own careers.

The difference is that when they (and the rest of the population of Sweden who watch TV and read newspapers) were presented with evidence that their decision had been based on false and deliberately misleading evidence they immediately set up an unbiased investigation into the truth, and once all the evidence had been gathered and assessed they changed their decision.

So far in the UK, when evidence has been put forward proving the lies that are being spread (suicide statistics etc) then any "investigation" or "consultation" is carried out by biased TRA lobby organisations, or organisations that are reliant on compliance with the TRA lobby for their funding. Grass roots organisations set up to defend the sex based rights of women are dismissed as hate groups and not invited to the table, and the majority of responses to a public consultation can be dismissed as "faulty" if the respondents were unable to add a gender identity on the consultation form.

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SarahTancredi · 12/05/2020 15:58

One also wonders if there will be punishments put in place for members of society in a country who seek treatment in another country where it is legal?

How will the young people be protected from being flown abroad to get the surgery

popehilarious · 12/05/2020 15:53

Why did it take the media to point out that the information underlying the proposal was false? Is there any appetite for the people putting these policies in place to check facts themselves, and do they have the skills to do so?

SarahTancredi · 12/05/2020 15:30

Where are they standing on the medications?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/05/2020 15:22

That is good news. Means we can point to things like that as actual examples of best practice IE critically considering the evidence before making changes

hoodathunkit · 12/05/2020 15:20

Anything like this that protects children from abuse is wonderful news

Thanks for sharing