Guardian interview with Juno Dawson

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Can I assume some women have used the word "he", or has there been a breakout of personal attacks today?

You can roll around in the garden pretending to be Lolita

Whoa!

Reading TRA stuff on Twitter, it really struck me the other day how they don't understand women - neither our anatomy nor our experiences. A couple were telling stories about things 'girls' had apparently confided in them once they'd been accepted as 'one of the girls'. It just sounded like fantasy.

It was not OK for a boy to like the Spice Girls as much as I did, but I couldn’t keep it in. In fact, the day I first told anyone I thought I was gay was the day I bought the single Stop in 1998.” At Bingley Grammar School (“a grammar school in name only”) she was bullied into conforming to male stereotypes with the result that, while compensating by overperforming academically, “by the time I was a teenager, I felt almost entirely like I’d failed at being human”.

It's always the same isn't it? I feel incredibly sad for those who have suffered this kind of start but it bemuses me that anyone think this qualifies them to advise others on gender issues.

The Queen of teen award was awarded to James, not Juno. It's interesting how dead-naming is so painful for those who were nonentities before transition but not at all for those who have a body of work prior to transition that they rely on.

Have emailed the guardian to complain

The journalist who wrote the piece, Claire Armitstead, is a very experienced journalist. She's not some woke 22-year old. So she should know better than to be complicit in some serious gaslighting

I found watching Jess Phillips MP interview by Juno Dawson during the Labour leadership competition difficult to watch.
People's academic & professional expertise are not in necessarily sufficient protective factors.

(Strangely I havent been able to find the video of the full interview yet)

clip here:
twitter.com/pinknews/status/1218183191405592576

17 January 2020 Juno Dawson for Pink News
'Labour’s Jess Phillips on transgender rights and why she’ll never throw minorities ‘under the bus’
(extract)
"My name is Juno Dawson and I’m an author, journalist – and I’m a transgender woman. I’d admired Jess Phillips MP from afar for a couple of years on Twitter.

She was staunchly feminist, outspoken and unguarded. She was rare – a normal, working-class, human who’d somehow wound up in the rarified world of politics.

Only then, on November 16, 2017, she let me down.

She retweeted a notoriously anti-trans organisation who seek to bar women like me from single-sex spaces and revoke the hard earned rights of transgender people.

In her tweet, Phillips stated she found the group’s demands reasonable and that we needed a solution that suited both trans people and women.

You can guess what happened next: in typical Twitter style, trans allies piled on, bombarding Phillips with the phrase: ‘Trans women are women.’

It’s true, but I went one better and added a hugely patronising ‘Hun’ to the end of the sentence. Perhaps I was drunk or something.

Politicians on the liberal left are, without question, scrutinised more than those on the right: we expect Conservative politicians to be, well, conservative. Phillip’s tweet stung. It felt like a betrayal. The tweet was heralded by transphobic groups who seek to divide and foster suspicion around the trans community. Again, as has become customary, I mentally ‘cancelled’ Phillips and I wasn’t the only one." (continues with interview)

www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/01/17/jess-phillips-labour-leadership-transgender-rights-juno-dawson-pinknews-interview/]]

From the OP article Dawson seems to think all teenage girls behave as if they’re in Rita, Sue and Bob Too.

Once upon a time Juno Dawson was called James Dawson and wrote a book called Being a Boy. Which ironically was probably within their knowledge base, unlike pretending to have any understanding of what it's like to be a young woman, having never experienced being a teenage girl. However it is undoubtedly the case that Juno's profile is much higher than that of James so a niche was spotted and exploited. Win win.

Just imagine if it was a 38 year old man detailing school-girl sexual fantasies in a national newspaper.

Dawson goes into secondary schools to give talks on their books. Last year they gave a talk at my daughters school to year 10 and then held a discussion with six formers.

Dear god I hope it wasn't about the breast and nipple fantasies Juno writes about.

My experience of being a teenage girl was having to deal with predatory male behaviour well before I was mature enough to understand why it made me feel so disgusting or how to deal with it.
It's quite clear from that interview where Dawson's beliefs about teen girls come from. It's just plain gross and very creepy. Pornhub has a lot to answer for.

Dawson goes into secondary schools to give talks on their books. Last year they gave a talk at my daughters school to year 10 and then held a discussion with six formers.
I complained - to no avai,l but I know I wasn't the only one to complain.

I would love for the Guardian to open the comments on an article like this, even just the once... nobody is buying this.

Sorry. Misread your post. It's Dawson that did that.

it immediately follows an interview by Hadley Freeman with Tony Slattery, which is an outstanding piece of journalism, in my view, and the kind of content that keeps me buying the paper

I wrote on the “what other issues has this opened your eyes to” thread that I now appreciate that all newspaper publications have good journalists and bad journalists, good articles and bad articles, and that’s what you look for. The publication itself isn’t “good” or “bad”; there’s an editorial slant which can be good or bad depending on your point of view but that doesn’t mean everything in that publication is good/bad. So that’s why I still read the Guardian - for people like Hadley Freeman, Suzanne Moore, and even to read muppet articles like this, to see what shite they’re peddling - and it’s why I don’t buy the “Daily Fail” hate trope when they have journalists who are prepared to publish articles pointing out the madness of certain ideologies. If more people read publications that they currently deem “hateful” or “left wing” maybe there could be better discussion.

Only exception is Pink News of course, which is a pure propaganda shitrag .

Sorry, slight derail.

Sheerahah Cross posted with you & I share your concerns.

What is a middle-aged late transitioner (5 years ago apparently) doing writing porny novels for teenage girls? Seriously.

What is a middle-aged late transitioner (5 years ago apparently) doing in a whatsapp/'social circle' with boys who have been prescribed 'puberty blockers' ?

extract
"[Juno Dawson's] social circle ranges from her “straight, white fiance”, with whom she bought a house in West Sussex last year, to a WhatsApp group of young trans women who – like Alice – were able to transition before going through a male puberty. “Do I envy them? Of course. I was absolutely a product of Section 28, which became law the year I went to primary school and was revoked the year I went to university.” Introduced by Margaret Thatcher in 1988, Section 28 barred the “promotion” of homosexuality in schools “so there was nobody talking about what it was like to be a queer person”.

There’s a telling scene in Wonderland when Alice finds herself in the bathroom with a gaggle of coke-sniffing flower girls." (continues)

www.theguardian.com/books/2020/may/11/juno-dawson-trans-alice-wonderland-interview-spice-girls?CMP=share_btn_tw

Oh god 🤢