Guardian interview with Juno Dawson

I genuinely hope Juno has a happy marriage. I just wish they would be a more self-aware about the sexism that underpins this ideology, and why it's not a good idea, in that case, to write for teenage girls.

(Also, if any boys/men are reading, please don't go 'pulling' on girls nipples (like udders?) for many women that will be painful and at certain times of the month excruciating and a very risky thing to do!)

*external - not extendable.

I do feel a genuine sense of conflicted sympathy for trans women who fit the narc profile. It’s such a huge upheaval of identity for someone that will never have enough extendable validation to be happy. It must be massively destabilising. (And yes, I know that given the narcissism, it will be other people that suffer the most for that)

Awful. Not even technically proficient writing. Such a token book deal.

Eventually my dad took all my Barbies away.

"Same thing happened to Paris Lees."

Some thing happened to Jackie Green.

I hated Barbie and gave the one I had, to my sister. I saved up and bought a train set. Does that mean I’m confused about who I am?

Sorry, dunno what happened there.

Is it the complaint I've heard a number of times, that straight men will have ONS with TW but won't have any sort of relationship or be seen publicly with them? Because it doesn't appear that most young TW find it at all easy to meet sexual partners. Gay men prefer men, whereas straight men prefer women.

The interview is a depressing read. JD is writing about a trans fantasy of a teenage girl, presumably from the POV of the teenage boys who identify as girls from the group JD hangs out on. I agree with PP that knowing that JD used to be a teacher is discomforting. Even creepy.

Monday the first review of that Alice book, “lost girls” is “intelligent pornographry”. whereas this Juno book is supposed to be “young adult fiction”!

Alan Moore, yet another misogynist.

I hadn't come across his version of Alice, MondayYogurt. An Amazon review:

'This book is widely marketed (even by Moore himself) as pornography and if I'm honest, it is. However, if you actually read the story (rather than just look at the pictures) you'll find it is a quite harrowing tale of abuse and sexual awakenings'

Abuse of women presented as porn. Groundbreaking. How daring.

"As a young trans woman doing internet dating, you’re going to attract heterosexual men, when all they are really interested in is that you’re a very specific body type.”

Wtf does that mean? Is it the complaint I've heard, that straight men will date TW

Nah Monster I was deleted as I knew I would be for pointing out the obvious and I'd presume for not doing it in a naice enough way...

I'll repeat, when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

Am I allowed to say that MNHQ?

Hmm just sounds desperately derivative of Alan Moore and Melinda Gebbie's Lost Girls.

www.amazon.co.uk/Lost-Girls-Alan-Moore/dp/086166180X

People can write what they like within the law. It's up to the guardian who they promote, it's the paper I take issue with.

To be honest, I don't really care about Dawson's private life. It seems Dawson has found happiness, and that's great.

Just not happy about novels overtly aimed at teens/children depicting dubious sex fantasy and drug scenes. Write for adults, Juno, nobody will care what you do, then.

Sickening. They've also re-written history. I'm from the same town, went to the same school. Funny, I remember it as quite diverse and middle class in the 80s.

Apparently my post wasn't "in the spirit of civil debate". Unlike every post on the rest of the site that are allowed to stand obviously.

@BadLady You can comment on the Guardian twitter thread here...

twitter.com/guardian/status/1259801911030677504?s=21

Go for it! Comments are surprisingly tame tbh

*Eventually my dad took all my Barbies away.

Same thing happened to Paris Lees.*

Shit - I never had barbies, and there was me thinking I was a woman. How wrong am I??!!

‘I loved Barbie dolls...My parents took me to a doctor because they were concerned what I was saying wasn’t normal. Nowadays it’s more likely a professional would question if I was transgender, but this was Bradford in the 1980s and there just wasn’t the same awareness and education there is today. As I got older, I learned to hide those feelings because I was made fun of.’

Can Juno really not see it? Can Juno really not understand that there is absolutely nothing wrong with a boy liking to play with dolls? If they were action men, or teddies, then I'm guessing those dolls would've been fine!

It's insane.

The rank sexism must be obvious. Surely.

Jackie Green's parents took them to the doctor because they liked playing with dolls, too.

Is it only dolls? I'm guessing if they want to play with a toy kitchen, the sexism isn't quite as obvious, given the rise of the celebrity male chef?? Is there a list?

Nice beard.

Dawson's impending nuptials:
www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-8078171/I-didnt-think-trans-women-like-true-love-says-Juno-Dawson.html

YA needs to be read by all parents imo. It is a vehicle into the minds of children, we are right to be concerned about the content.

No doubt certain titles are deliberately very cheap to download too.

Wasn't her mother killed in an accident while trying to rescue her? Then Humbert took the child away with him?

Yes, hit by a car while trying to alert people about Humbert's plans.

It's a bit of a lurid illustration of porn culture and the objectification of girls (children) that our society now uses the title as a byword for a sexually appealing young woman, but that's another discussion.

who is irritated and what it is that irritates them.

Yep.

Eventually my dad took all my Barbies away.

Same thing happened to Paris Lees.

Susie Green describes following pressure from her husband & relationship counsellor doing the same with her "then young son" Jack's dolls and other "girly toys":

TedTalk 13 Dec 2017
'Transgender: a mother’s story'

Eventually my dad took all my Barbies away.

"Same thing happened to Paris Lees."

Some thing happened to Jackie Green.