Young women don't know what a woman is

Also missing the obvious logic of if there's no such thing as a woman anyway, how does anyone know that they feel like one? You can only feel like and identify as something that tangibly, definably exists. This is all smoke and mirrors and polite social lying for the sake of emotional needs.

Which is fine until it's driven to the point of being harmful to female humans. This all only works if you believe that female people are always inferior to and less valuable than male born people. And calling that feminist is like calling yourself vegan while chugging down steak.

Could it be that younger women are more likely to give the answer they think they're required to give, rather than what they really think?

I know I could be quite conformist as a young woman.

It's easy to be all kind and accepting when your boundaries havent been breached.

That is so very true.

As I told my teenager Mums aren't prejudiced about trans people we just think that encouraging young people down a path of medication and mutilation and sterilisation is not a good idea. She got it. I suspect ignorance about the reality of what being trans really means has a lot to do with it.

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too

It is. And it isn't.

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too and if you say that all women are born with a vagina then you are being a bigot.

What's it like to 'feel like a woman', then, biology and a life of socialisation aside?

I know a young transwoman quite well, and I'd love to ask why they 'feel like a woman', especially as all their hobbies are stereotypically male, and they act much more like a stereotypically geeky man than a woman. I can't ask, of course.

Well, I'm a middle-aged woman myself

How do you know?

Genuinely interested to hear your answer

@nauticant If I was a furry someone else would be licking my arse

I am so fucking done with mumsnet now

Following your post that’s probably a relief for everyone

I believe in the definition of a woman.

This is the important bit. Your friend is not a woman. If they are perfectly lovely they will understand that you like them whilst still recognising they are not a woman as you are.

If they actually want you to pretend you think they are a woman just like you, then they are not perfectly lovely as they are ignoring your boundaries.

I’m in the age group you mention and I truly don’t know any girl/woman who believes that.
I wonder about the methodology of this study tbh

However I do feel some guilt because I'm quite close friends with a transwoman, and yes they are perfectly lovely.

If they are perfectly lovely then they would understand how you feel. Or are they perfectly lovely only when people are pandering to them and stroking their ego?

Surely the question that follows TWAW is simply: “what is a trans woman?”

It sounds like you're a furry SoldiersinPetticoats. Sorry to break this to you.

Which kinda proves that a lot of young women are saying this only because they think they ought to or have to

Yes... I was sure it was already a hate crime in Scotland to deny it.

So I might have actually answered that question that way too. But I don't believe I should have to share toilets. Or women's refuges.

They tell me I'm being sexist when I say men, as a class, are bigger and stronger than women.
That is interesting. I went on a course for work and the male trainer was talking about heavy lifting. He said something like "Now, some men-not all of course-but in general-and I hope this is not seen as sexist-but men CAN be stronger and more able to lift heavy loads than some women.." and this other fella started going "Oh, I have worked with loads of really strong women, they can lift more than the blokes" and all these other men start nodding along, thinking they are being all non sexist!
I piped up " Men are stronger than women. It's just a fact" and this young woman sat next to me agreed- it's just a fact.
How weird that we are seemingly not allowed to just state biological facts and have to pretend we are all the same and that sex has no impact on strength!
If you think about it, it's a bit disturbing, this idea that men are not stronger, because then there is no reason to think a man might be able to overpower a women.

I’ve always identified as a cat but when I try to lick my arse I just can’t manage it. I’ve got pretend ears and a tail as well and I’m really good at sleeping so I must be a cat, right?

Maybe they know a XY person in their book group / office who is perfectly lovely and therefore all women and girls must give up their sex based rights.

This is where I sit, I think (well, not the second part). I'm in the younger demographic. I believe in the definition of a woman.

However I do feel some guilt because I'm quite close friends with a transwoman, and yes they are perfectly lovely.

I don't want to revoke any of my rights but I know it would crush that person to be referred to as a man. It's just a very... difficult situation.

How do I know that how I feel inside is the right feelz for being a woman?

Maybe how I feel is the same as a cat feels so I'm actually a cat. There are too many similarities for it not to be real, and after all, it's how I feel inside that matters not pesky biological facts, bigots.

I might be about to have an existential crisis

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too

If biology isn't everything, and it's how I feel inside that counts, then what am I? I thought I was a woman because of my biology. But what other stuff should I be taking into account?

Or is it only special people who have inner feelings that count?

Biology isn't everything, It is when defining what sex you are - if you have a penis you are male, if you have a vagina you are female, if you have both then I guess you're a hermaphrodite? And I'm not a bigot - science agrees with me. Perhaps you should go back to school LittelMeadow123

I am so fucking done with mumsnet now.

Other websites are available.

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts

And alll this time I thought womanhood was down to my biology. Turns out it was just this ... feeling. What is that feeling?

I know I'm a woman because I have a vagina! I feel sad for these 16-34 year olds if they haven't learnt biology yet.

As the poll showed, even the most fervent 'TWAW you bigots' has a threshold to where they aren't comfortable with male bodies being near them.

It's easy to be all kind and accepting when your boundaries havent been breached.