Young women don't know what a woman is

isabelle that wont work as men can get pregnant too these days.

Strangely though, transwomen dont seem to be able to be pregnant, despite biology not mattering 🤷‍♀️

If it’s feelings that count (not boring old biology) then the word ‘woman’ (and man for that matter) is meaningless, absolutely meaningless. So why does anyone else want it?

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too and if you say that all women are born with a vagina then you are being a bigot.

This is news to me, because many years ago I had an unplanned pregnancy. Are you now telling me that I could just have chosen to be a man and then that wouldn't have happened, and I could have avoided all the heartache and worry, and then all the physical pain of pregnancy by just identifying as a man?

“Trained young by men, for men, who made sure to explain that women who put women first are shunned, and you don't want to be one of those do you?”

Ah, that makes sense (unfortunately)

did you know Native American Indians consider trans to be a gift?
No I didn’t but if they do then that’s part of their culture- not ours

It's really astonishing: why don't all the young Asian or Eastern European women (the vagina-having kind) forced into prostitution and servitude just identify as men? Because surely their pimps would then release them immediately?

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too and if you say that all women are born with a vagina then you are being a bigot.

Yes, yes, that dreadful B-word. I think this is the word young women are terrified of; like being a bigot is the worst thing ever. We older, experienced women don't care. Call me bigot as much as you like; I'll still say that women don't have penises.

Re physical strength: my son shot up past me when he was 14 and since then he has left me far behind as far as strength is concerned, without even trying.

Now 34, he could easily pick up another man his size and sling him over his shoulder and carry him - easily. I have to struggle to carry my 3-year old granddaughter more than ten minutes.

Male superior strength is just a fact; but it doesn't mean they ARE superior, and we don't have to be coy or defensive about it. Physical strength is just one aspect of our human experience. We women have a different kind of strength, and men can't touch us in that.
My son recognises this and respects me. It's not all about brawn.

I’m in this age group and I’ve got to say, I find those statistics rather depressing. I can’t help but wonder, how has this happened?

Looking back at my own education, compared to my OHs who is nearly 40, I don’t think we are encouraged to ask why and analyse issues. School, for me, was more about passing exams, be it year 2 SATS or GCSEs, rather than a rounded education of the person. Is our education system responsible for such an inadequate understanding of the very basics of human biology? The difference between the 2 sexes is understood across all species. From the beginning of our species, be it you believe it was a god or evolution, when our medical understanding was limited, we then knew the difference and understood this. Yet in 2020 we cannot comprehend it.

As a woman in my mid 20s I know exactly what a woman is - someone who likes pink and wearing dresses obviously!

In all seriousness though I think theres 2 categories of people my age 1) never really thought about it and just read TWAW
2) spent their teenage years on tumblr, want to be 'woke' TWAW

I know a couple of transwomen and I would argue they arent nice people. One is basically wanking over themselves in a skirt on facebook. The other is a female cricket player, always thought they were lovely but they are clearly either oblivious to the harm they are causing or dont give a shit about actual women. Hes just another misogonistic man really, neither of these transwomen actually like women in anyway shape or form.

The only reason it will crush transwomen to be told they are male is because as a society we have played lip service to it for so long, we have been able to convince vunerable people that they can become women. And thats simply not true. If we didnt spend so much time pretending TWAW it wouldnt be such a shock to find out they are men.

The other day I got into an disagreement at work about transitioning children with a very loud, vocal man. Honestly he was so convinced that children should be put on puberty blockers, and that Terfs were evil it was like Id suggested aparteid, that not transitioning a 10 yr old was the same level of evil. I would be lynched if I dared to suggest trans women werent women

oh ffs can’t we just accept there’s 3 sodding genders and there always has been - some identify as ‘female’ and ‘male’ with all the society ‘norms’ that entails and some people are in the wrong body or feel a mix of both - twas ever thus - did you know Native American Indians consider trans to be a gift? I am a fluffy pink 49 yr old woman who likes dick and pretty things and I believe people should be celebrated and encouraged in whatever fucking endeavour they so choose and what makes them happy. It’s fucking 2020 and we are in the middle of a global pandemic and have lost many people - enough now - live and let live - be who you want to be and what makes you happy!!!!!

Oh, FFS yourself. If I wanted to be you, would you be happy if I rocked up at your house, made myself feel at home and made a move on your partner?

This is all so fucking ridiculous

MadameTuffington however many genders we want to imagine (and yeah, go for it!) there are only two sexes.

And the "in the wrong body" crap really winds me up. If it is 2020 and many people are dying so everyone should live and let live, why can't a gender-non-conforming male (TW) use male facilities with the men celebrating their fucking choices and not beating them up? Why can't men accept them and "live and let live"?

Oh, right, it's because it's the women who have to accept and celebrate their fucking choices. The women. Right.

live and let live - be who you want to be and what makes you happy!!!!

It makes me happy to have spaces, without any penises in them. So how does that fit In with people who are made happy by goIng into these spaces with their penises?

I’m sure you are not suggesting for a single minute that my feelings count for less, so please do tell how we get round this situation @MadameTuffington

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too and if you say that all women are born with a vagina then you are being a bigot.

Could somebody tell me what it ‘feels like’ to be a woman. I am an adult human female - I have no idea.

All women are born with a vagina. That’s what my A-Level biology text book told me. Transphobic trash. Let’s change the medical textbooks for Dr.s, Nurses etc. Feelings over reality please - won’t harm anyone.

I can't be who I want to be whilst denying what I am

I can't be an ace footballer because of a congenital ankle fault.

Spending my life thinking I can be a world class footballer would be a waste of a life.

I need to be me, whole me, my physical and mental and emotional being.

live and let live - be who you want to be and what makes you happy!!!!

so to be clear, you believe womens sports, changing rooms, refuges etc should all be opened to men?

do you believe people should be able to identify as any age? eg middle aged man can go to nursery? or race eg white people apply to scholarships for minorities? or species?

I believe people should be celebrated and encouraged in whatever fucking endeavour they so choose and what makes them happy.

What makes me happy is people using words accurately. I am so glad you support my endeavours to make sure woman means adult human female.

Thanks.

Sex is defined by gamete production. There are two gametes and two sexes.

Biology matters. Sexism and female oppression is because of our biology.

TW and TM might indentify into a third category and frankly power to them. I wish them health and happiness and a life free from prejudice.

It is not bigoted though to want to maintain the privacy and dignity of biological sexes though. It’s also not helpful to deny reality and it’s certainly not kind.

@MadameTuffington

Trans activists aren't asking for "live and let live". They are demanding that other people recognize and accommodate their identity.

Female and Male are biological states. Not an identity or feeling but an actual physical factual state of being.

So no, theres no accepting some males can identify as female anymore than I can identify as being brown eyed - I simply am not.

oh ffs can’t we just accept there’s 3 sodding genders and there always has been - some identify as ‘female’ and ‘male’ with all the society ‘norms’ that entails and some people are in the wrong body or feel a mix of both - twas ever thus - did you know Native American Indians consider trans to be a gift? I am a fluffy pink 49 yr old woman who likes dick and pretty things and I believe people should be celebrated and encouraged in whatever fucking endeavour they so choose and what makes them happy. It’s fucking 2020 and we are in the middle of a global pandemic and have lost many people - enough now - live and let live - be who you want to be and what makes you happy!!!!!

Try it. Ok, so what does ‘feeling like a woman’ feel like - and it has to be feelings not preferences for certain clothes of activities.

Having lurked on trans subreddits I actually know the answer to this! "Feeling like a woman" is having "gender euphoria" which is in its in turn a euphemism for getting an erection when you put your knickers on.

Yes, monitors, not all transwomen, and I'm sure Reddit is not a representative sample, etc and so on. Disclaimer notwithstanding, it's darkly hilarious how many of them believe they are women because their penis told them so.

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too

Cool, I’m a woman, so you’ll be able to tell me exactly how I “feel inside” then.

Whenever you’re ready. I’ll wait.

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too

Well I know I'm definitely a woman then because I can feel a little person moving around inside me 😁

Can someone describe what water or air smells or tastes like? Or what it’s like to have no legs (only those who have 2 legs please). Or what’s it’s like to have no sense of smell?

Try it. Ok, so what does ‘feeling like a woman’ feel like - and it has to be feelings not preferences for certain clothes of activities.

Biology isn't everything, it is how you feel inside that counts too and if you say that all women are born with a vagina then you are being a bigot

Wow. Just wow. So what is 'inside' that counts so much?

Someone can think they identify with a stereotype of a certain 'gender' and go for it. All power to you. But what's inside does count. Mammary glands, ovaries, menstruation, fallopian tubes - that is actually what's inside.

If you are so knowledgeable on the subject, can you please tell me what makes a man 'feel' like a woman and how does he know what being a woman feels like?

I have never heard a reply that resonates with me, as a biological woman.