Young women don't know what a woman is

Expel you, most likely.

I was always gobby - even as a teen. Never ever been able to let a lie, well lie. Even as a small child I had a very strong sense of telling the truth. I’d have a very hard time at uni these days wouldn’t I? They’d probably burn me.

A lot of women of all ages are so scared of being viewed as rude or not nice, like it's the most terrible thing ever. It's easy to see how a popular ideology can influence younger women to parrot phrases out of a desire to 'be kind'. Even if they don't actually believe it, as more detailed questioning shows.

The worst is the B word. Nobody wants to be labelled a bigot. Not is you're in your early 20's and at uni.
It's older women who don't care, and tell it like it is.

Michele Moore said she works with lots of children with disabilities, one key point she makes is that they have to learn to accept their bodies despite them frequently being awkward and difficult and not working quite as they should, as it is the only body they have, so it can't be the wrong one.

My last landlady's nephew was born without feet and only one hand. I can imagine that he must have felt he was born in the wrong body -- something was definitely "wrong" with his body which he could see just by comparing it with other bodies. I can also imagine that he longed for a whole body, and knew that all the artificial aids he was given were not the real thing. But it was the body he had, and he had to get on with learning to live in it.

It's appalling that children with perfectly healthy, sexed bodies should be encouraged to think their bodies are wrong, and that cutting off parts or adding artificial appendages fixed "the problem".

Queer Theory is a very elitist and academic development. And a significant proportion of adherents of gender identity ideology are the so called well-educated, university types who have a lot of influence in political and civil service discourse. It's why so many areas of public policy have rapidly fallen for the nonsense we are seeing around us.
Those who aren't diehard fans of gender identity ideology still go along with it to be 'nice' and don't want to rock the boat by stating thoughts and opinions deemed to be 'controversial' in their social circles. They have also probably spent very little time thinking deeply about the implications of the things they parrot. People rarely form their opinions based on well researched arguments.

Brain maturity isn't complete until about 25. All humans are vulnerable to peer pressure, but the younger you are, the more worried you are about how other people think of you, especially in your age group. The desire to fit in and conform is strong. It's why teens claim to be rebels and different from 'old' people and parents, but they all look very similar to their friends with the same haircuts and fashions and clothing. We've all been there.

Society is more tolerant of men saying 'controversial' things than women, so even if a young woman might disagree with something, she is more likely to stay quiet or say the 'correct' thing instead. The self-righteous scoldings we get on this board from other posters passing through to tell us how awful and nasty we are ..... I seriously doubt those same posters would drop by male dominated sites like Kiwi Farms to wag their fingers at them.

A lot of women of all ages are so scared of being viewed as rude or not nice, like it's the most terrible thing ever. It's easy to see how a popular ideology can influence younger women to parrot phrases out of a desire to 'be kind'. Even if they don't actually believe it, as more detailed questioning shows.

Children do need puberty blockers, hormones and surgery (as soon as they're old enough). It's only middle-aged men who can say 'I'm a woman' and that instantly changes their sex and makes their penis female.

The important thing is that gender-confused children are mutilated and sterilised and middle-aged men with a fetish are validated.

Thanks @OldCrone. That really is the message from TRAs and it's beyond parody.

The results clearly show that most of those who 'believe someone is a woman because they say they are' actually don't believe that because of how those same people answer the subsequent detailed scenario questions. Which kinda proves that a lot of young women are saying this only because they think they ought to or have to.

Yes. Hugely telling. It's a ridiculous statement which makes no sense.

Yes, because unless they're in a position of taking advantage of the ideology, such as Sally Hines and the like, well-educated professionals often have the most to lose by saying "I don't believe this". I can't imagine my brother working away on the shop floor of a factory getting much grief by saying that a person with a penis is a man.

A horrible statement in itself. It starts from a position that there is somthing wrong with the child that needs to be fixed.

Michele Moore said she works with lots of children with disabilities, one key point she makes is that they have to learn to accept their bodies despite them frequently being awkward and difficult and not working quite as they should, as it is the only body they have, so it can't be the wrong one.

In my experience, well educated professionals seem the most delusional of all, although I suspect in many cases, it's fear talking.

Indeed, gender identity is very much not a working class movement.

Mind you most of us are well educated professionals. Perhaps women who haven’t had the privileges we have had don’t feel as comfortable forming and asserting their own views.

Being a professional and well educated definitely doesn't innoculate people against going along with the gender identity ideology. (It often appears that the reverse might be the case.) I'd say this applies particularly to young women.

No child is born in the wrong body.

A horrible statement in itself. It starts from a position that there is somthing wrong with the child that needs to be fixed.

I don't see how any physiologist could agree its right to tell a child their healthy body is wrong and needs to be fixed.

I fear we are quick to medicate and validate children because it's easier than unravelling the complex reasons why a child would feel they are the opposite sex, or hate their sexual characteristics, or strongly feel they need to live as the opposite sex.

Much like its eaiser to give someone with anxiety or depression drugs than it is to provide extensive counselling.

Some people may need drugs and surgery. But it should be only as a last resort once they are at least 25 - which is when the brain has fully matured and we are able to fully understand the consequences of our actions.

pubs for children in California is quite charming. "In the good old UK that we quite like now that the whole tea

I'm not from the USA. I'm english. My username is from Kill Bill.

I doubt that survey was well constructed. I’m a young woman as are many if my friends. We all know what sex is. Some accept transgenderism, some are gender free/critical, all of just see gender as aseparate issue to sex. Mind you most of us are well educated professionals. Perhaps women who haven’t had the privileges we have had don’t feel as comfortable forming and asserting their own views.

I don't remember this but I apparently once said "you're not my mummy!" in response to my mum getting a drastic haircut when I was a small child.

I apparently did something very similar. It was the 80s though

If children are being taught that you need surgery to change sex, that's also transphobic

Children do need puberty blockers, hormones and surgery (as soon as they're old enough). It's only middle-aged men who can say 'I'm a woman' and that instantly changes their sex and makes their penis female.

The important thing is that gender-confused children are mutilated and sterilised and middle-aged men with a fetish are validated.

I don't remember this but I apparently once said "you're not my mummy!" in response to my mum getting a drastic haircut when I was a small child. The idea that children are tiny sages who know more than adults and whose every pronouncement should be taken at face value is a bit silly.

There was an experiment I remember learning about when I studied psychology.

You put a cat mask on a dog - then asked a small child if it was a cat or a dog. If you shaved a raccoon and dyed its fur to look like a skunk - is it a raccoon or a skunk.

At 3 years old kids got muddled. By 4 most knew the dog was always a dog and the raccoon a raccoon.

"Also sometimes there are dogs and there are these things called crisps. They're like chips, but with many onion flavors on offer."

If children are being taught that you need surgery to change sex, that's also transphobic (and dangerous imo)

Once I corrected him he looked so confused. Like what I said made more sense but why would the school lie.

This is the very serious failure to take seriously the responsibiity for the trust that children and young people put in their teachers, youth workers, doctors, social workers & parents.

The responsibility is for children's Safeguarding.
All adults are responsible for Safeguarding children & Vulnerable Adults.

Telling children that they could be born in the wrong body & that an operation will make them change sex is a breach of Safeguarding.

No child is born in the wrong body.

Won't comment on "bood" but the idea of a lesson about pubs for children in California is quite charming. "In the good old UK that we quite like now that the whole tea in the harbour thing is long in the past there's this marvelous place where you can sit around for hours drinking beer that actually has flavor and playing darts."

If it’s all about ‘how you feel’ then cosmetic surgery would definitely be unnecessary.

Given that "the op" transmen are most likely to have is a mastectomy the idea that having it makes you a "boy" is particularly horrifying when you consider how many cancer patients that involuntarily transes.