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Oxfordshire CC withdraws transgender toolkit after girl's legal challenge

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GruffaIo · 07/05/2020 20:46

www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18434781.oxfordshire-council-transgender-guide-scrapped-girls-court-case/

13 year old girl's legal challenge. The High Court ruled that it was arguable that the toolkit was unlawful.

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WTFSeriously · 27/05/2020 12:48

This (twitter post from the Baroness) is encouraging. Will the EHRC ignore the Baroness the same way they've ignored others?

Fishdoggy · 23/05/2020 12:35

Toots

Here are the experts.

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1263449405090344960

Fishdoggy · 23/05/2020 12:32

www.countycouncil.org.uk

33 in England
8 in Nothern Ireland
10 in Wales
33 in Scotland

The original terrible 10 who were credited by the Bastions of Mordor have all been addressed. Some have capitulated, some are under siege and some playing out the Peter "Do you know this man?" response. (Moi? I know nothing)

There are various dilutions on a theme and not always easy to track down, it has to be said. I think the count of removals stands at 8 with more likely to come next week.

Do you have a particular interest in a particular one Toots?

if I missed of any them please say and Scottish Cities may have their own. I do not know this. Yet!

Lordfrontpaw · 23/05/2020 09:36

Maybe we just need to ask (someone get a pen and paper).

Tootsweets23 · 23/05/2020 06:37

Can I ask is there a list somewhere of all the councils in the country and whether they have a batshit toolkit, who did it (ie stonewall etc) and whether it has been removed yet?

2fallsagain · 23/05/2020 00:54

I think it's safe to say we are all waiting for the EHRC to make their move!

Lordfrontpaw · 22/05/2020 19:41

I’m more dwarf than elf.

Fishdoggy · 22/05/2020 18:03

Irons gown and picks rose petals...

Lordfrontpaw · 22/05/2020 17:45

I’m waiting for Fionne to rock up on a lovely white horse...

Fishdoggy · 22/05/2020 17:44

Lordfrontpaw

I couldn't possibly comment on the merits and beauty of Orc City Central. Or their fragrant leaders.

RoyalCorgi · 22/05/2020 16:09

The EHRC is fucked. They can't blindly continue misrepresenting the Equalities Act now without a huge outcry and more importantly a legal challenge.

I agree. (And with WTF.) They are going to look so incredibly stupid if the guidance they issue is in line with the Oxfordshire/Warwickshire/Brighton etc toolkits. They know that people are watching them. They know there is a group of parents prepared to mount a legal challenge. They know that the government, in the form of Liz Truss, has very firmly said that single-sex spaces must be protected. I'm not one to count my chickens, but I think we've won. But I am very curious to see what they come up with instead - or if they try and get away with not coming up with anything at all.

Lordfrontpaw · 22/05/2020 16:01

Mordor? As in Sauron?

Fishdoggy · 22/05/2020 16:00

There were 10 acknowledged in the original Mordor script and I believe all have had emails from parents.

Others have variations on a theme and I believe some are quietly withdrawing and adopting a wait and see approach.

Mordor, as one would expect is holding firm and hissing.

Lordfrontpaw · 22/05/2020 15:00

Is there a list of the counties who have/been supplied with this?

Fishdoggy · 22/05/2020 14:35

Denbighshire have withdrawn this morning.

I think the list is

  1. Oxfordshire
  2. Warwickshire
  3. Shropshire
  4. Barnsley
  5. Kent
  6. Doncaster
  7. Denbighshire

Well done to all parents and Safer Schools Alliance and the brave lass who stood up for her sisters.

WTFSeriously · 22/05/2020 13:53

If they do attempt to double down on their position what's the next step from there, legally speaking?

It has to be a legal challenge & incorporate all corners of the U.K. as all corners are seemingly deferring to the EHRC school guide as the basis of policies following the dropped guides in various LAs.

I'm sure there will be co-ordination on a response once it's finally published.

Apollo440 · 22/05/2020 11:54

The EHRC is fucked. They can't blindly continue misrepresenting the Equalities Act now without a huge outcry and more importantly a legal challenge. The government isn't even onside now. What they thought were cheap woke points is now a now a massive turd. The only thing they can do is back down.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 22/05/2020 11:20

If they do attempt to double down on their position what's the next step from there, legally speaking?

WTFSeriously · 22/05/2020 11:13

The pressure on EHRC now is immense & they must know that any flimsy claims or blatant disregard for girls' rights & protections are ripe for legal challenge, over the whole of the UK. The scotgov trans school guide is also inexplicably delayed, while they too await the EHRC guidance.

It'll be interesting to see who blinks first.

Dances · 22/05/2020 07:54

And now Doncaster
mobile.twitter.com/SResisters/status/1263581905221382146

2fallsagain · 21/05/2020 21:58

Safe schools have resources to help you challenge your own LA. Here: twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1263449405090344960

Please use them and let us know how you get on.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 16/05/2020 09:55

EHRC are boxed in. If they try reissuing the trans guidance they will find themselves in court and likely to lose. I wonder what they'll do?

And if they amend it to be more reasonable they'll be swarmed by angry TRAs. They could have avoided this by not issuing stupid and illegal guidelines in the first place (it's always harder to row back bad policies than to avoid making them in the first place).

kesstrel · 16/05/2020 09:05

EHRC are boxed in. If they try reissuing the trans guidance they will find themselves in court and likely to lose. I wonder what they'll do?

Keep stalling and delaying? I wonder how long they can do that for....is there anything in their legal status that could allow their hand to be forced?

Spero · 16/05/2020 08:51

More fantastic news!

twitter.com/safeschools_uk/status/1261554175198072832?s=21

Apollo440 · 13/05/2020 17:53

EHRC are boxed in. If they try reissuing the trans guidance they will find themselves in court and likely to lose. I wonder what they'll do?