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Surrogacy on the NHS

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Viewfromtheisland · 04/05/2020 11:48

Didn’t know it was allowed in Scotland but I’ve been educated by the Daily Record today....

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Viewfromtheisland · 04/05/2020 17:57

Hi, sorry for the delay in responding. Yes, that was the link.

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OhHolyJesus · 04/05/2020 16:26

To be fair I was broken after birth so wasn't paying much attention in the private room but when my husband went home and I went to a ward I was aware of other men around, mainly because of the snoring!

I'm not sure that men should be on the wards, being single sex for one thing but because of just the state you're in and a woman's needs should be prioritised at that time.

I don't think a side room is appropriate as you say Cat if they are for women with infections, so it can be contained.

Cattenberg · 04/05/2020 16:21

2. Accommodate CMs in a separate room so they can stay at the hospital whilst mother and baby/babies are being treated/recovering

Have these people ever seen an NHS post-natal ward? They’ll be lucky to get a curtained bay on the noisy ward itself, and good luck with getting some sleep. There might be one or two private rooms, but they’re normally reserved for mothers with infections, not visitors.

OhHolyJesus · 04/05/2020 15:17

I found an FOI request on Surrogacy for Same-sex couples and a response:

"Currently surrogacy is being reviewed by Scottish Government and a national policy is being developed. There is no funding in place at this time for this treatment. Couples wishing to have surrogacy must find their own surrogate this is not a role any Fertility Centre can be involved in."

Which is interesting, given the above and the daily record article which I think is this OP?

www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scotlands-first-gay-couple-access-21968033

Lynda07 · 04/05/2020 12:09

I didn't know it was available on the NHS in the UK at all.

OhHolyJesus · 04/05/2020 12:08

Have you got the Daily Record link OP? Thanks.

OhHolyJesus · 04/05/2020 12:07

In addition there is a push to allow IVF for same sex couples in the NHS in the UK.

Surrogacy pregnancies on the NHS are tricky to say the least, but there is a push to allow:

  1. Commissioning parents at the birth, whether natural or c-section, in addition to the chosen birthing of the surrogate mother. That's a lot of extra people in an operating theatre.
  1. Accommodate CMs in a separate room so they can stay at the hospital whilst mother and baby/babies are being treated/recovering
  1. Allow the exchange of the baby to take place on site (a legal issue relating to the premises and any subsequent disagreements)

CMs are already allowed to scans and all medical appointments. Including questions around reducing (killing) a foetus regarding multiples and aminoscentisis.

All this requires safeguarding measures to be applied and would involve the midwives and consultants. How are the NHS supposed to do this on top of everything else they do?

In addition to being involved in writing MHS trust guidance these two are challenging the 'poor' take up of this guidance (guidance is not policy), anyway, take a look at their 'missions' 2, 3 and 4.

www.twodaddies.co.uk/