Baroness Nicholson on twitter

People are not assigned a gender identity at birth. Midwives do not have sorting hats.

People will attempt to shove gender stereotypes on children from the moment of birth based on sex. This is irrelevant and doesn't work, as children have the personalities they have and like what they like. Boys can like, do and look like anything they want, and girls can like, do and look like anything they want.

Why is 'be yourself, ignore the strait jacket of gender stereotypes and you and your body are perfect as you are' so unacceptable?!

Tyro - that's as good a summing-up of the whole sorry business as I've seen anywhere.

This is so brilliant to read. In case no one’s mentioned it already she’s on the board of JK Rowling’s charity.

R0 the sexism shines through so clearly, doesn't it?

'Everyone is born suited to a particular sex role stereotype. Sometimes it takes a while to figure out which stereotype you occupy most comfortably. All stereotypes are valid!

'If someone fancies a stereotype not allocated to their sex, they may wish to start chopping off body parts willy-nilly. This is valid and must be celebrated and supported!

'Some people refuse to be reduced to a stereotype. These people aren't human.'

Can we have that projected onto the side of massive buildings everywhere?

Department for Education
Sanctuary Buildings
Great Smith Street
London SW1P 3BT ?

Stonewall Youth information
PUBLISHED 17 JUNE 15

Gender Identity
"Your gender identity is a way to describe how you feel about your gender. You might identify your gender as a boy or a girl or something different. This is different from your sex, which is related to your physical body and biology. People are assigned a gender identity at birth based on their sex.

Some interesting things to think about:

Everyone has a gender identity and expresses their gender in a unique and personal way. This could be through the clothes you wear, the way you stand, the interests you have.
Someone else can’t tell you what your gender identity is – only you know how you feel and you should never feel pressured to label yourself or fit in with other people’s ideas.
Some people know from a young age that their gender identity doesn’t feel the same as what they were assigned at birth, and some people may take a while to work out their gender identity. This is completely fine, everyone is unique.
When talking about gender there can be a lot of words and phrases used that you might not have heard before. We’ve listed some below, but you may hear more:

Gender expression – this is the way that you express your gender! For example, if you identify as a girl you might want to dress in a certain way or read certain books. A lot of people might not be aware of their gender expression, as it’s a natural way that we express ourselves.

Gender dysphoria – this is when someone feels uncomfortable about the gender they were assigned and who they really are. For example, if someone was assigned as a boy at birth and grew up feeling that this wasn’t right, they may have gender dysphoria. There is help and support available for people who experience this.

Transition/transitioning – if someone feels uncomfortable about their gender identity they may choose to transition. This is a very personal decision and can happen in lots of different ways, depending on the person and the options available to them. " (continues)
www.youngstonewall.org.uk/lgbtq-info/gender-identity

Girl & boy are not descriptors of gender identity either.

girl
/ɡəːl/
noun
a female child

boy
/bɔɪ/
noun
a male child or youth.

Secretary of State for Education (since 2015)
Nicky Morgan 15 July 2014 -14 July 2016
Justine Greening 14 July 2016 - 8 January 2018
Damian Hinds 8 January 2018 - 24 July 2019
Gavin Williamson 24 July 2019 Incumbent
(source Wiki)

Can we have that projected onto the side of massive buildings everywhere? Nah, hate though-crime innit?

But I still chuckle at the 'trans women are women' (all caps) projections that unfortunately went partly over a window so 'ARE' actually looked like 'APE'. Yes, I still chortle at that one.

Man & woman are not descriptors of gender identity.

Can we have that projected onto the side of massive buildings everywhere?

A gender identity is nothing more than a preferred sex role stereotype. Reducing woman to a stereotype is utterly dehumanising.

Important thread & analysis by OP, womanformallyknownaswoman
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3488261-The-Financial-Juggernaut-that-is-Stonewall

My MP is worse than useless. All she ever does is bitch about anything the current government does (whilst simultaneously not doing anything useful where she has control, nor suggesting anything that the torys ought to be doing beyond ‘we want more’) and big up the mayor.

I'm writing to my MP asking him to clarify how these principles apply to civil servants doing the bidding of Stonewall and inflicting their demands on children in our schools.

It might be useful to remind MPs of David Cameron's warning in 2010 that lobbying was the next political scandal:

Telegraph
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7189466/David-Cameron-warns-lobbying-is-next-political-scandal.html

Well someone needs to look at how this tiny group of unrepresentative lobby groups have managed to skew public policy in their favour, including removing certain aspects of the statutory safeguarding of children while every other single political / social movement or charity is still struggling even to be heard, let alone influence policy and the law.

As a result of this, the fundamental school's equality guidance gives gender reassignment priority place in the protected characteristics and the document is littered with links to Stonewall and GIRES.

GIRES have enjoyed considerable access & influence to public policy makers for a long time:

Trustees Annual Reports 2014-18
beta.charitycommission.gov.uk/charity-details/?regid=1068137&subid=0

2018
(extract)
GIRES has been at the forefront of campaigns to improve the lives of trans people through stronger legal protection, better medical care and greater respect within society. The charity responds to the constant stream of invitations to contribute to consultations on policies that affect the lives of gender diverse people, for instance with regard to the gender recognition process or the education of medical professionals. It also attends the meetings of influential bodies where issues of concern to gender diverse people are discussed, including the Parliamentary Forum on Gender Identity, the Equality and Diversity Forum, the Gender Recognition Panel Users Group, the Office of National Statistics, the Crown Prosecution Service Community Accountability Forum and the National LGB&T Partnership. In addition, GIRES has participated in the development of Good Practice Guidelines for the assessment and treatment of gender incongruent adults and the NHS England specifications for gender identity services for adults and young people. The World Professional Association for Transgender Health has honoured GIRES for its work in education.

Consequently, there is much more to do. The law needs to be simplified and broadened, to respect the autonomy of the individual, and to recognise the great variation between individuals in the gender
diverse population" (continues)

Having a reliable measure of the number of trans people among employees, service users and in the population generally is important in planning for the support they need and GIRES is working on monitoring gender identity accurately with NHS England, the Office for National Statistics and the Solicitors Regulation Authority. Gender is often used incorrectly as synonymous with sex. GIRES
supports the application of the term “sex” to biological factors and “gender” to psychosocial and cultural factors. Hence, male/female are terms for describing sex. 'Man/woman, or any variations between or outside these psychosocial categories, are terms for describing gender identity'

Man & woman are not descriptors of gender identity

Man
noun
an adult human male.

AGMs 2014-19(draft)
www.gires.org.uk/about-us/annual-meetings/

2016
(extract)
"Afterwards Baroness Barker spoke on Parliamentary and political aspects of current transgender issues and Dr. Helen Webberley spoke on transgender health care as a GP. Other matters discussed included the Report of the House of Commons Women & Equalities
Committee Inquiry, Brexit, trans*formation and trans individuals in prison. There was also a workshop for families of gender nonconforming people.
Bernard and Terry were thanked for their hospitality and we all clapped when Baroness Barker praised Terry for her great vision and persistence."

2017
(extract)
Afterwards members discussed three ways to influence government policy. First, NHS England is seeking views, by 16 October, about its proposals regarding gender identity services for adults. Secondly, the Government Equalities Office (GEO) has launched a survey, which runs until 15 October, among LGBT people about their experiences and the improvements they seek in public servicers. Thirdly, the GEO plans a consultation in the autumn on reducing the bureaucratic and medical burdens in obtaining gender recognition.
There was also a concurrent workshop for families of gender diverse people."

2018
(extract)
"5. Any Other Business
Alice Purnell Chair of the Beaumont Trust reported on the Trans Archive being set up in Bishopsgate.
Mike Webberley gave information about GenderGP.
Helen Belcher gave information about current governmental consultation on the Gender Recognition Act.
Bernard and Terry were thanked for their hospitality and ongoing sterling work for the Charity."

"The Committee’s terms of reference were further clarified in a House of Lords written Parliamentary Question on 28th February 2013 to explain that the Committee’s remit means it:

can examine issues relating to the ethical standards of the delivery of public services by private and voluntary sector organisations, paid for by public funds, even where those delivering the services have not been appointed or elected to public office. (Hansard Column WA347). You can view the Parliamentary Question answered by Lord Wallace on 28th..."

Who knew the Committee on Standards in Public Life also covers ethical delivery of services from voluntary sector organisations paid for by public funds?

I'm writing to my MP asking him to clarify how these principles apply to civil servants doing the bidding of Stonewall and inflicting their demands on children in our schools.

^^Exactly.
Nolan Principles are hugely valuable. Not only integrity but openness, honesty, accountability. Think more politicians and senior civil servants should be challenged on adherence to them.

Agreed EweSprouts.
And I'll post again the Nolan principle of Integrity that all holders of public office are meant to adhere to:
Holders of public office must avoid placing themselves under any obligation to people or organisations that might try inappropriately to influence them in their work. They should not act or take decisions in order to gain financial or other material benefits for themselves, their family, or their friends. They must declare and resolve any interests and relationships
Given that he speaks about an involved family member and has received awards / hospitality from a political lobby group the conflict of interest seems clearly evident.

Riddle me this. When the government has a whole department called the Gender Equalities Office why does it also need a civil service Stonewall approved LGBTI+ champion looking to demonstrate to Stonewall "that our HR-wide policies help to foster diversity and inclusion"? Seriously is Permanent Secretary for the Department of Education not a way over 40 hours a week full-time role?
truthisarevolutionary's link above

Traditionally, the ruling class had its old boys' network. That still exists, but it is not the only network. Lobbies of various kinds are at work constantly out of the public eye, and the more I think about it the more I realise how anti-democratic it is.

There definitely appears to be a third sector network of people who were at university together and move between charities, quangos and arms-length organisations, spreading gender nonsense as they go.

Hopefully her speaking out will cause organisations who unquestioningly invited (paid for )the lobby groups in, ran coffee mornings and sold cookies for the ‘poor tortured souls’ and the parents who saw this being taught to their kids to question, debate and protest without fear of being labelled hate criminals of the century.

Thanks for posting this about Baroness Nicholson. Its very heartening to see someone with her status take a stand. I do remember her from her days in the House of Commons and but I suppose didnt pay as much attention as I should because Lib Dem!

Unfortunately, and not just Stonewall, it is the hidden networks, quite often things like share membership of a club, who you were at school / university with, that has more influence than any open lobby group.

This is why women have never had the power men have, because whatever networks they might have they are not in themselves part of the status quo.

And as so many women at work have found, doing your job well isn't always enough, when the men can stay behind after work and socialise with each other, while women are going home to pick up children, make tea etc..

And as we are still finding out hidden networks formed on shared personal interest at its worse, such as abuse of children, are still powerful hidden influencers who can undermine or deflect attempts to expose them.

And of course just the staight forward over sexism, of when a man talks what he says is paid attention to.

And I suspect in the Civil Service, and elsewhere who aren't that interested in actual equality, are happy that they have say a gay male civil servant who they can bring out on display of there progressiveness and in return he gets to formulate policy that they nod through.

I love that this is a chain of events that has sprung from the commitment of a 14 year old to stand up for he place in the world.

Yes totally.

Yes she did!

I love that this is a chain of events that has sprung from the commitment of a 14 year old to stand up for he place in the world.

The Baroness tweeted that "I’m a latecomer as I mistakenly thought that we who had worked on Womens Rights in the eighties had succeeded permanently; I see that we succeeded impermanently and that the battle is constant. A part of nature; so we can never give up and fight cheerfully on."

I so get that.

Baroness Nicolson replied to this tweet:

It's time Stonewall are properly investigated (and No Outsiders) for wilfully misrepresenting the Equality Act to make money from schools and push homophobia/misogyny

And said

I think you are right (twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1256889794287874053?s=19)

Which I think is quite hopeful. What this whole mess really needs is an in depth forensic investigation into what has been happening, who has been pushing it, and links between people / orgs.