Scottish Government's Hate Crime bill

The SNP have such a totalitarian obsession to them it’s creepy. We’ve had to endure the named person scheme, the GRA and now this.

I’ve come to view the SNP with disgust.

This is insanity. Even worse than the GRA nonsense. What's got into the Scottish government? They have some amazing women who speak clear sense. We know who pushes this mad agenda, but why are they so influential in Scotland?

'Stirring up hatred' is unbelievably broad and, to me, more sinister than 'insulting'. Would citing (collecting?) crime statistics be 'stirring up hatred' or even describing cultural practices? This seems like it reaches far beyond exclusively impacting gender critical discussions.

Following Bracadale, the Scottish Government want to create a wave of new “stirring up hatred” offences, attaching to each and every one of the protected characteristics, including age, transgender identity and “variation in sex characteristics”.

Two of those are not protected characteristics.

I started having a read of this a few days ago and it is pretty concerning. Thanks for starting this thread. We've barely had a breather with the GRA reforms being shelved, but make no mistake, the trans lobby are going to keep pushing in any way that they can.

This bill looks like the perfect vehicle for their plans. I think this is the next battle we need to fight.

The description is already off to a bad start.
www.gov.scot/news/hate-crime-bill/

If passed by Parliament, the Bill would also provide for new ‘stirring up’ of hatred offences that would apply to all characteristics listed in the Bill: age, disability, race, religion, sexual orientation, transgender identity and variations in sex characteristics. Currently these offences only apply to stirring up racial hatred.

Transgender identity and variations in sex characteristics? The Equality Act lists gender reassignment and sex. It's very telling that these two characteristics are the ones that are consistently misrepresented in all sorts of Bills and policies. They are at it again.

No doubt 'stirring up of hatred' will apply to women discussing and debating the impact of transgenderism on their sex based rights.

I am so, so sick of this devious lobby as they have nothing they can justify openly and honestly.

The proposed legislation will also cover "insulting behaviour" which is pretty terrifying.

Another article here, but I can't get past the paywall:

Archived here:

archive.li/bJTkz

Excerpt:

Following Bracadale, the Scottish Government want to create a wave of new “stirring up hatred” offences, attaching to each and every one of the protected characteristics, including age, transgender identity and “variation in sex characteristics”.

Under these proposals, you’ll commit a crime if you behave in a “threatening, abusive or insulting manner”, or communicate “threatening, abusive or insulting material” to other people which either (a) intends to stir up hatred against a protected group or, or where the court concludes it is (b) “likely” such hatred would be stirred up, irrespective of what you intended. Yes, you’d have a defence of “reasonableness” in context – but incorporating that mild word “insulting” in a criminal statute brings me out in cold sweats.
I can see it now. I’m braced for the deluge. “Is this tweet a hate crime?” Report, report, report.

Criminalising female humans defending or even speaking about their rights.

A male supremacist's wet dream.

Itsall yes good point re misogyny. So stating the dictionary definition of woman and your screwed.

Uploading real, actual abuse and humiliation of women to pornhub? Crack on fella.

This is so depressing and quite sinister.

There would also be a new offence of ‘possessing inflammatory material’,

Yep, that's fucking chilling.

Another article here, but I can't get past the paywall: www.thenational.scot/news/18405995.laws-hate-crime-matter-reform-blow-face/

He is trying, in essence, to make Scotland a hostile environment for hatred

Hostility is fine. Hatred is thought-crime.

I'd spotted this too - I like the way they say they are going to add on misogyny as an offence at some unspecified time in the future so they can advertise the bill as a good thing for women.

For those who haven't read the article this bill could well criminalise women taking part in gender critical discussions.