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Liz Truss reveals ‘shocking’ plan to remove healthcare for trans youth, slammed as an ‘extraordinary’ attack on equality - the backlash begins

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stumbledin · 23/04/2020 17:09

Predictably trans activists and their media allies have started misrepresenting what Liz Truss said.

"" ... Worryingly, only one of the three principles set out by Truss actually relates to GRA reform.

The other two – the protection of single-sex spaces for women and access to healthcare for transgender youth – are talking points often repeated by those opposed to trans rights in any form. ... "

(ie protecting women's rights is anti trans)

" ... “It would be an extraordinary move for the minister for women and equalities to support the introduction of a new form of inequality into British medical practice, by effectively treating transgender teenagers as less capable than their cisgender peers.

“We believe that transgender young people should have the same right to make important personal decisions as non-trans people.

“Furthermore, we must question why Ms Truss is making a statement about clinical pathways while answering a question on the Gender Recognition Act, which has no bearing on medical care.” ... "

(This is pink news so not surprising that they would take this tone!)

Meanwhile in the Independent:

" ... LGBT rights group Stonewall demanded talks with the minister to establish what decisions she had in mind and to ensure that young people continue to be offered appropriate support. ... "

" ... We’d welcome an opportunity to discuss this with the minister, as it’s crucial all young people who are questioning their gender identity are able to access high-quality, timely support. Every trans young person should be given the care they need, in an informed and supportive manner, so they’re able to lead a happy, healthy life.” ... "

As far as I know no women's groups or services have made any statement, eg re confirmation that single sex service provision is guaranteed under the EA.

Pink News: www.pinknews.co.uk/2020/04/23/liz-truss-trans-rights-gender-recognition-act-reform-healthcare-puberty-blockers-backlash/

Independent: www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lgbt-gender-government-liz-truss-transgender-rights-consultation-a9478901.html

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BringbackLang · 23/04/2020 17:40

I get what you are saying but I don't believe for one second that people have accepted the narrative, some people may have but the majority haven't.

Many people do not support Mermaids at all. Twitter is not the world's opinion piece that people think it is.

I have a friend with a Non conforming child she watch butterflies, propaganda piece, and was horrified. No way she is letting her child near them.

stumbledin · 23/04/2020 17:26

The public are seeing them for what they are. I would willingly bet the minister does too.

Unfortunatley we know that the public via the beatification of Mermaids have also accepted the trans narrative!

We might all hope they do but there is no evidence of that.

And as I said up thread no evidence of women's groups / women's rights activists countering the trans publicity and / or they have and papers are refusing to publish.

In the global scheme of things mumsnet isn't even a microparticle.

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BringbackLang · 23/04/2020 17:25

These are the statements of people and organisations starting to panic. The wheels are coming off the train and they don't like it. I expect much hyperbole in the coming months.

SarahTancredi · 23/04/2020 17:24

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nauticant · 23/04/2020 17:23

We need the TRAs to start disruptive protests and make outrageous demands. Let this happen as soon as possible. Watched by a public having real issues on their minds.

stumbledin · 23/04/2020 17:21

Now the health "specialists" are getting in on the pushback.

twitter.com/Spectra_London/status/1253330286038749185/photo/1

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stumbledin · 23/04/2020 17:21

Well they have invested over 20 years if not more persuading people that telling children they are either a girl or a boy is a form of abuse.

They aren't going to allow the women who happens to be the Equalities Minister at the moment say anything to contradict that.

You can expect endless coverage all from the trans perspective from now on.

And knowing the Tory Party there is nothing to believe Liz Truss will be in post for anything other than a few months.

But most importantly she didn't say anything that isn't currently law or good practive.

Implying that supporting women only service provision is inherently anti trans is not only a lie but grossly anti woman. And of course in no part of the coverage is there a women groups speaking up for women's rights.

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BringbackLang · 23/04/2020 17:18

A backlash from who though? A group of people who have a vested interests in the rights of women and girls being dismantled and who don't give two hoots about the bodies of young children and adults being permanently altered and no one knowing the true consequences.

The public are seeing them for what they are. I would willingly bet the minister does too.

SarahTancredi · 23/04/2020 17:14

Beggars belief why there would be backlash , I mean according to them kids are not being given drugs etc so what are we stopping them from?

How anyone can see not prescribing children toxic cancer medication that stunts their physical mental and sexual development as a bad thing I dont know.

What is it they are afraid of If children can't set in stone their identity at 12 years old ?