Liz Truss reveals ‘shocking’ plan to remove healthcare for trans youth, slammed as an ‘extraordinary’ attack on equality - the backlash begins

God there is no balance here at all is there, and inaccurate stats and references to Stonewall as per usual.

I mean I'm not surprised but IPSO should be doing something about this.

Have you complained stumbled?

I can't think of a parallel modern situation outside of adult elective cosmetic surgery, where an emotional pain is regarded as the basis for surgery, never mind chemical/surgical sterilisation and removal of healthy body parts. Lobotomy was at one point in history regarded as a kind and merciful release from unbearable mental distress: that was how medics of the time phrased it, and some of that was with consenting patients. The modern and progressive solution of the moment, extremely fashionable, banned in the 70s amid massed concerns about the loss of individual rights through the surgery and now seen as an awful thing. Likewise the castrati with surgery to preserve their voices, made illegal in 1861 as unacceptable even with a child actively requesting it.

One argument the TRAs have got is that if we don't let kids take puberty blockers etc, the next step will be refusing to let young people have abortions.

There is no comparison between the two because

1. the alternative to an abortion is not doing nothing, it is having a baby.
2. the medical consequences of an abortion are predictable.

You could perhaps draw a comparison between somebody who wanted to go on puberty blockers and a 14 year old who wanted to be sterilised... except it's unlikely that a doctor would agree to sterilise a 14 year old.

In the UK 'Gillick competence' doesn't give anyone the ability to demand medical treatment if the doctor does not agree that it is in the best interests of the patient.

Picking up on the writing to MPs point - would it be worth writing to, eg, M&S to point out that the government has clearly signified a commitment to EA2010 provisions and the protection of single sex spaces, so their actions have been a misinterpretation of the law at best and we look forward to the correct provision being restored and shopping in their stores once they reopen?

John Lewis, any council facilities, rinse and repeat?

Family of aliens are you a teacher , are you saying this is not taught ? Shocking if so

Also just think of all the complaints the MP would get about her SPAG! If she existed, that is.

I do wish we in schools were allowed to teach children about critical thinking, and the reliability (or lack thereof) of different “sources”.

As an MP at this point you'd be extremely - er 'courageous', was that the Yes Minister word? - to pin your colours to the mast like that.

I would imagine a key reason to hide the name of this MP, if it is indeed an MP, is to prevent bloody horrible women writing to the MP pointing out terrible things like logic, fact, reality and current law, and asking them to consider the frankly evil POV of child protection policy and practice in the UK.

Is the MP Mhairi Black?

The only group of people I can think of who capitalize for no reason in that specific way are MRAs. Which, I mean, not impossible that an MP is an MRA, but there are more likely explanations.

Why not publish the MPs name? Is the MP ashamed?

Would an elected MP really start a letter to a constituent with “Hi” and no name?

And use capital letters for nouns and adjectives?

I call bullshit.

I’ve been following that thread on Twitter R0wan

Colour me sceptical......

Claimed response from an MP to a complaint about Liz Truss' statement & 3 principles:

twitter.com/MistresSinestra/status/1253709419436748800

Sadly we are Labour - female mp who never speaks on woman’s issues, spends her time complaining about the gvt (not offering solutions), local high profile ‘initiatives’ that don’t really do much (bugger all for locals in lockdown in need) and having gurning pics taken with the mayor. Never replies to tweets. Useless.

Apologies for typo, coffee is needed.

At the very least I suggest anyone who has a Tory MP writes to them and say how please they are to see that despite the COVID-19 crisis that Ministers are continuing to oversee day to day business. And that how reassuring it was to hear Liz Truss confirm that single sex services are guaranteed under the EA and that she is concerned to protect under age children from taking decisions before they are old enough to fully understand the implications

This, I think, I think is important & also to include a couple of specific points of issue.

^It always has to be asked: for what reason do adults want these systems changed? What's their personal stake in that happening?
^^
^How realistic (and compatible with safeguarding) is it to unquestioningly assume those who speaks so often on this subject do so from pure altruism and a burning concern for the stifled freedoms of children?

Spot on. No sacred castes.

Is it self referring...the petition itself is the this to be stopped?

Evidently safeguarding children from potential harm needs to be stopped. One wonders why they want that? no one doesn't

What exactly needs to be stopped? Liz Truss speaking in Parliament? That's going to be difficult, what with her being a Minister and all.

The petition came up on my facebook earlier.

No actual aim other than "This needs to be stopped" (Thought experiment - if there was a feminist petition with those exact words on about something what sort of names do you think we'd be called?).

No links to anything, let alone any of the words that Liz Truss actually said.

Just frothing.

I could barely look for cringing.

It's always so interesting the way they play the narrative game. Years of quiet lobbying in private meetings and various schmoozing for the TRAs to get as far as they did in the halls of power, via the Tories and Labour and all the establishment and corporate entities is simply unremarked on.

One Conservative minister makes a tame statement about protecting single sex rights, allowing trans people to live fairly and safely, and protecting children from irreversible and wrong decisions, and suddenly this group of well connected TRAs, entrenched in every possible sphere, pretend that the entire establishment is against them.

The brazen audacity is one of the reasons they've got so far, tbh. You do stand, open mouthed in shock that they can claim these things, never mind have people nod along.