Liz Truss reveals ‘shocking’ plan to remove healthcare for trans youth, slammed as an ‘extraordinary’ attack on equality - the backlash begins

I had to laugh at the replies that went from quite benign but full of BS to 'Shut up you bigoted t@rf scum' in only a few tweets when challenged. Not a good look.

And we wonder why MPs keep quiet! The levels of intimidation, threats and bullying by trans advocates is off the scale. Shame on them all.

The hyperbole in the replies . Labour seem to have become the party of style (very loosely) over substance. I still find it hard to comprehend how women can betray their own sex for the sake of woke biscuit crumbs.

Sarah Sultana MP accuses us of "hysteria" in a letter to Liz Truss.

Seriously, FUCK Labour. They've learned nothing, have they, the stupid, woke, unelectable idiots.

"Speaking to the Women and Equalities Select Committee in April, Liz Truss brought into question the rights of trans women and young people.

I've written to her for answers on the Government's plans for the reform of the Gender Recognition Act and trans healthcare. t.co/Obx8jTIe7x "

twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1268914908298698755?s=19

But do the people who say this stuff think that six-foot male trans people with beards belong in the women's toilets, but the female ones don't?

And there in one scenario you have the absurdity of the TRA position. 5ft3 female with little mustache, female typical waist to hip ratio probably still obvious - banned because wearing trousers and says they're a man. Alex Drummond with full beard and male typical size and build - allowed because wearing a skirt and says they're a woman. And we're supposed to pretend that we're afraid of the female person with the fluffy little mustache.

But do the people who say this stuff think that six-foot male trans people with beards belong in the women's toilets, but the female ones don't?

And yes, that's why it's a ludicrous gotcha argument.

but my immediate mental image on reading that was someone like Muscato or Alex Drummond, so my reaction was to agree with the statement.

Same here.

in reality, you wouldn't want a six-foot transgender man with a beard in the women's toilet

I know that when TRAs say 'transgender man' they mean a woman who identifies as a man, but my immediate mental image on reading that was someone like Muscato or Alex Drummond, so my reaction was to agree with the statement. And as I said on another thread, the term 'transgender man' makes far more sense as a description of a man who identifies as transgender.

But do the people who say this stuff think that six-foot male trans people with beards belong in the women's toilets, but the female ones don't?

It sure does!

It paints a thousand words, doesn't it, Ereshkigalangcleg?

in reality, you wouldn't want a six-foot transgender man with a beard in the women's toilet

That picture is great, Tinsel!

Wow. So adults in their thirties who already have children need to be cautious about sterilisation because they might change their minds or should look at less risky and invasive options first.

Yet a child or teenager absolutely knows their mind and understands the full ramifications of sterilisation and lifelong medical complications if they invoke the sacred word 'trans'.

@merrymouse your analogy to sterilisation is so poignant, my husband and I decided to discuss options with our GP on family planning at my 6 week check after our third child. My GP wants my OH to wait 6 months before even coming in to discuss a vasectomy as we might not be done having kids and he flat out said that in his medical opinion sterilisation for women carried to many risks and would be a last resort for family planning.

Im 32 and my husband is 39 and more thought was given into our care than when puberty blockers are subscribed.

in reality, you wouldn't want a six-foot transgender man with a beard in the women's toilet

Anecdata I know but most of the trans men I've encountered have been on the teeny side even by female standards. Not sure why or if being short somehow fuels the desire to take testosterone.

in reality, you wouldn't want a six-foot transgender man with a beard in the women's toilet

Why 6 foot? Does identifying as man suddenly make you grow taller? In fact, wasn't there a study into puberty blockers that showed they limited height growth?

Producing items that warp the ribs of young people and make it hard for them to breathe certainly is an interesting choice for a family business.

I was shocked to day to find an advert for binders on my FB feed. Produced by a 'trans family'whatever that is. Was surprised at the normalising of it. I'd consider it a piece of medical equipment if nothing else.

Another thought crossed my mind as I was re-reading. Calling for women’s rights is so stigmatised, and so open to attacks by MRAs that Liz Truss can’t even say we want protection for women’s spaces. She has to say single-sex spaces. We are stymied at every level.

She talked about 'protecting single sex spaces' - this is often around things like bathrooms but, in reality, you wouldn't want a six-foot transgender man with a beard in the women's toilet,

Oh look. Female transitioners are being wedged into the issue once more. Odd how they are dragged in, not to argue for their rights, but in order to stop women protesting against men in their spaces.

If women who’ve taken testosterone want to use men’s spaces, they can do so. If men don’t like it, they can object. Women are arguing for women’s spaces, not single-sex spaces.

And with regard to Gillick competence, I think trans campaigners are painting it as young people being allowed a free choice, whereas it's much more complex. If a doctor wouldn’t allow young people to be sterilised by choice, they should be equally reluctant to put young people on a pathway, if that pathway has been shown to lead to sterility.

If anyone is reduced to terror that easily it's a mystery how they manage to get through the day.