Lesbian Visibility Week 2020

How can we make them actually bother to look at the issue - because I bet dollars to doughnuts they haven't bothered to look and just had a handy 'cut n paste' reply given to them for the 'hateful women' who would complain.

This is the reply to my complaint. It obviously a pro forma that they are sending to anyone who complains.

"Good afternoon

Thank you for taking the time to contact our office.

Tesco is committed to creating an inclusive environment, where everyone is welcome to both work and shop. We are a Stonewall Diversity Champion and part of the Open for Business Coalition. Our LGBTQ colleague network - Out at Tesco - is one of the largest in Europe and we regularly work with the external LGBTQ community to support a number of initiatives and events, including Pride and the recent Lesbian Visibility Week.

We actively support all genders, regardless of their sexual preference, to feel confident in being themselves. However, we do not condone any unlawful verbal or physical activity, either within our business or from individuals in the wider community, and always support authorities on any Tesco specific enquiries."

Part of my reply (not my original email)

In stating 'However, we do not condone any unlawful verbal or physical activity' is inaccurate. You have inadvertently sponsored a person who does.

Please stop trying to minimise the seriousness of this issue by inferring that bringing this to Tesco's attention is transphobic or homophobic. Supporting violence, even indirectly, is not acceptable. Even in the name of inclusiveness.

They've been told about the former leader of PIE, and specific extreme porn advocacy, and their response is 'we are inclusive' and Stonewall approved??

Bloody hell. Are they actively working against transgender ideology.

Wow that's a bit of a gaffe.

The refusing to back down as with Pride et al last year, is increasingly giving the message that this sort of belief and 'kink' is a normal, natural part of LGBTWhatever and should be smiled upon.

Fuck off with that, we spent fucking decades escaping the whole LGB = sexual deviant stigma before a bunch of white, straight, hetero blokes stormed in and started using us as a human shield for their desire to protect extreme porn, play with children while dressed as puppies with obvious erections and wank all over the pants in M&S. Oh and female people's and children's consent means bugger all and the prime director of their bodies and boundaries is said males.

There's LGB and there's fucking awful, antisocial behaviour and inflicting ones sexual behaviours and experiences on others. Or using non consenting others in ones sexual experiences. Please don't confuse the two, even if it's really convenient for those males if you do.

Thanks ChickenonaMug

Tesco have definitely been steered wrong by their PRs. I wonder who they use?

[...bit of a ferret around...]

Hmmmm looks inhouse. With a Law grad as consumer head of PR.

Ereshkigalangcleg this Twitter thread explains what happened and includes Tesco’s reply to the complaint.

mobile.twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1255823189722218498

And the LGB Alliance page has been closed by Just Giving.

They ought to think about taking action under the EA. Sexual orientation and gender reassignment are separate protected characteristics, so it's perfectly ok to advocate for the rights of one or the other. Positive action.

What have Tesco done? Link doesn't work for me.

That Tesco response is shocking - they can’t even be arsed to make sure all the font is the same from where they’ve clearly copied and pasted a generic statement. Not even addressing the extreme porn links (unless they’re implying that Bestiality and CSA falls under the Stonewall umbrella?)

But the Fake LGBAlliance twitter account with the link to the you-know-who lobby group is still up I guess?

And the LGB Alliance page has been closed by Just Giving. They have started on another platform but yes .... the persecution continues.

Tesco have replied... guess what - they don’t seem to like women!🙄

... I have to applaud the endlessly patient gaslighting..

It makes you wonder, doesn't it?

I am very much looking forward to this reply.

(@ForwomenScot) Tweeted: Excellent letter. Look forward to response from @Tesco* t.co/WNraLnrinG*

Perhaps it's reverse psychology Datun - places that are inclusive don't attract any activists as there's no issue

Um, that's not reverse psychology!

So by being inclusive of everyone you keep the men happy and therefore lesbians don’t need to worry about being harassed by them because they are allowed in without argument. That’s a new approach for sure.

Perhaps it's reverse psychology Datun - places that are inclusive don't attract any activists as there's no issue.

Well Diva has always been explicitly bi inclusive and trans inclusive and there should be no issue with bi or trans people joining in the community chat if they wished.

So not an exclusively lesbian only place then!

I really can't be arsed, Sappho . I've had these conversations many times, and it's to no point other than mutual frustration. You keep on in your reality where none of this is a problem, I respect that's your personal experience and what you believe. I'll stay in mine where my experience is that it is a major problem. Would appreciate the mutual respect for my experience and beliefs thanks.

I'm sure there's many more Dyrne I was just giving an example.

I am aware a tiny percentage of lesbians are having online battles with TRAs on Twitter where both are exercising free speech.

Twitter isn't an exclusive lesbian space though.

What point are you trying to make here SapphosRock ? I’m genuinely not sure.

Are you simply pointing out that there is one online community where lesbians can go and not be harassed, threatened and doxxed for simply stating a preference for vagina over penis?

Brilliant, problem solved, we should all shut up and stop whining then.

Go on then Michelleoftheresistance show me a post on the Diva community page that doesn't centre adult female homosexuals.

I'm not the one doing the gaslighting here

I have to applaud the endlessly patient gaslighting, really. You spend a lot of time on it. But I do actual facts and actual reality and not the nicer one with alternative facts where none of this is happening. So yes, that really is you pissing on my leg and no matter how many times you tell me it's raining I won't be believing anything different.

Well Diva has always been explicitly bi inclusive and trans inclusive and there should be no issue with bi or trans people joining in the community chat if they wished.

Yet if you look at the Facebook community group I shared every post appears to be from adult female homosexuals. Every single one. Curious that isn't it?

My point is there is an online space for lesbians which doesn't centre trans people at all.