Good news from Safe Schools Alliance

Yes it was a bit disappointingly vague the article wasn't it.

Deliberately didnt make it clear she is objecting to biological boys being there.

The laws were definitely not designed to force teenage girls to change with teenage boys, nor force adult women to change with adult men.

Or force teenage girls to change with adult men.

The laws were definitely not designed to force teenage girls to change with teenage boys, nor force adult women to change with adult men.

It's lobby groups who have led people to interpret it that way.

Hopefully, this will shine a massive amount of sunlight on the fact that they don't need to, and are perfectly within their rights not to.

Also, the defence narrative will not only expose the utterly vacant argument over how boys can also be girls and all the sexism that underpins that idea, it will also highlight the huge campaign to ignore women and girls' boundaries.

We know that the only arguments are debunked stats on suicide and exhorting women and girls to be nice.

So let's hear it.

At least they add the bit about sex, but only because the young girl used the term. Good that the news is out there, but a rather weak bit of writing by that reporter.

It also contains an innacuracy which should be corrected.

"A 13-year-old girl who objects to sharing changing rooms with transgender pupils"

The issue is not with sharing changing rooms with pupils identified as transgender but with being required to share with peers who are male. The girl is not objecting to sharing intimate spaces with female pupils identified as transgender or non-binary.

Thank you chit that R0wantrees. I’m frustrated by the emphasis being put on trans’girl’ as people who don’t understand, quite often think that is a female who identifies as trans, rather than a male who wants to be identified as if they are we’re a girl. At least they add the bit about sex, but only because the young girl used the term. Good that the news is out there, but a rather weak bit of writing by that reporter.

Times today,
'Girl launches changing room privacy case'
(extract)
A 13-year-old girl who objects to sharing changing rooms with transgender pupils has been granted permission by the High Court to take landmark legal action against her local council over its schools policy.

She is seeking to quash guidance from Oxfordshire county council that transgender girls can use female toilets, changing rooms and dormitories on school residential trips, and take part in girls’ sport.

The teenager said this gives her “no right to privacy from the opposite sex”.

The legal action is the first of its kind and could have implications for hundreds of schools that have adopted similar guidelines.

The council “utterly refutes” concerns that children are being put at risk.

The girl’s mother said she was “astounded” that her daughter was having to" (continues)

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/girl-launches-changing-room-privacy-case-lhn9vjv7n?

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3888642-Times-23-Apr-2020-Girl-launches-changing-room-privacy-case

This is such good news.

This is a great start! Glad to see it's been given the green light to go ahead.

What a refreshing breath of sanity. Too bad it takes so long to go through the system. Very much looking forward to the trail, and hoping it gets decent media coverage. (always the optimist...)

Good news.

Thanks Xanthangum, that looks really interesting.

Thanks for sharing that interview Rowantrees.

I see there are some questions. I will come back tomorrow. Life got in the way today. I can report that it's been our most popular twitter thread to date!

January 2020
Interview by Posie Parker with Tracy Shaw from Safe School Alliance describing the nature of Safeguarding issues & the origins of the group

@Dhalandchips
It was on the link posted upthread, on the SSA.
@WTFSeriously
I'll have a look for your thread.

Amazing. Well done, all.

That's hopefully going to add to your arsenal, Katie. 👍

Really pleased to hear this. I'll have to have a think about how this relates to my case.

Exactly. I've started a thread on the article that was taken from as it's well worth a read and off topic to the excellent achievement by SSAUK. Do have a look (thread about David Reimer).

'But the child enjoys it' has long been the justification used by abusers, to try and rationalise away their own guilt and avoid facing the reality of what they are doing. It's another version of 'if you didn't make me angry I wouldn't have to hurt you' and other such refuges of dysfunction to avoid taking responsibility for themselves, their behaviours and their ill treatment of others.

Soon, that expression is eerily similar to one expressed by John Money, the 'eminent' professor who experimented on twin boys, one 'reassigned' a female gender ID following botched medical circumcision. Who also abused both boys during his so called therapy sessions.

Well done to all at safe schools alliance. Absolutely brilliant job. 👍

Christ! When was that @Soontobe60? 'Beneficial'???

I can't quite believe the letter that Peter Tatchell wrote in support of what is tantamount to child rape as shown on the SSAUK article.

Brilliant news!! Thank you for sharing and thank you to all those standing up for the rights and equalities of girls.

We used to support Barnardos. I was gutted when I found out how fully on board the TRA train they are. It was really important to me to give to a charity that supports abused children, so finding out they are actually complicit in this form of child abuse themselves was a real kick in the gut

Me too ☹️☹️☹️

Does anyone know a charity that works with/for abused children that hasn’t signed up to this?

I'm pretty sure The Reign Collective www.reigncollective.org.uk/our-history-and-mission/ have a fairly sensible view, but I'm not sure they work nationally.