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Julie Bindel - there-s-nothing-empowering-about-the-sex-work-on-onlyfans

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LadyBBKing · 16/04/2020 14:30

Someone may have already posted this (sorry, working stupid hrs at the moment, haven't been keeping up) but has anyone seen Julie B's latest article? The comments on the Twitter feed are disgusting. I've only had a 3 min look but ugh.

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1250397469189513216?s=20
www.spectator.co.uk/article/there-s-nothing-empowering-about-the-sex-work-on-onlyfans

I for one love the writings of a select few of the Spectator journalists so (if you're reading this Julie) I think kudos to her for this being published here, many of my more woke friends have left reading the Guardian and BBC because of horrendous CV-19 reporting.

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KaronAVyrus · 17/04/2020 16:36

It’s a bit like when people claim that men use escorts just for going out for dinner and absolutely nothing else. It’s bullshit designed to reel in the gullible.
There is no way that men are paying hefty sums of cash for a cheeky, page 3 glimpse of some tits. Honestly, you’d have to be pretty dim to fall for it.

KatesMott · 17/04/2020 16:03

I meant mild in terms of pornography where most sex is between ‘strangers’ effectively. Many users are able to communicate with their subscribers, they can ask them to wear certain outfits, dance to a particular song etc and build up a rapport/relationship with them which offers something which they don’t get with just looking at a ‘random’ naked stranger. This clearly appeals more to some hence the growing popularity of such accounts

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 17/04/2020 15:58

Anyone who thinks those woman who make a fortune are only selling naked pics are deluded

That's a good point, some colleagues were talking about this a while ago but I wasn't really paying much attention, but at the time it didn't seem to ring true to me. Why would you pay some rando thouands of pounds to see their tits when you can google naken women on line for free? Also posting videos of you having sex with your partner online for money is not mild, its a sign you've lost sight of your boundaries.

KatesMott · 17/04/2020 15:37

skql I couldn’t agree more but the conversation I was responding to was in part talking about the money that can be made from such sites.

skql · 17/04/2020 15:33

i think there's more important things than money.

KatesMott · 17/04/2020 15:27

Santaclauswhosthat

I really don’t care if you believe me or not. It makes absolutely no odds to me or to my potentially fictional friend Confused

KatesMott · 17/04/2020 15:26

Also I’m not sure where I said prostitution was great for women 🤷🏼‍♀️

Santaclauswhosthat · 17/04/2020 15:25

Yep.

KatesMott · 17/04/2020 15:25

Santaclauswhosthat

Escorts are always "high end" in posts talking about how great prostitution is for women. 🙄

She earned £10,000 from her last ‘job’ and has a huge portfolio of very wealthy clients. She works entirely for herself too. They are just facts. Was just trying to give an idea of background

KatesMott · 17/04/2020 15:20

n00bMaster69 I’d rather not say and have it linked to my information however it’s very easily searchable as the woman who owns it does a lot of press showing how she’s a self made millionaire from it. She’s an ex lap dancer herself.

Santaclauswhosthat · 17/04/2020 15:18

Escorts are always "high end" in posts talking about how great prostitution is for women. 🙄

Anyway, I agree with @Delirium. I'd like to empower your dp by paying him to put a hoover up his ringpiece.

n00bMaster69 · 17/04/2020 15:14

Mmhmm. What's the name of it KatesMott?

Deliriumoftheendless · 17/04/2020 15:11

Maybe your DP could sell nude photos of himself? I’m stuck in and just got paid would he like to be empowered?

KatesMott · 17/04/2020 15:09

n00bMaster69 I have had access to the platform so yes I have seen the paid for images. As I said it’s not only fans so I can’t speak for that but I know that both models are very similar. I’m also not saying that sort of content won’t be there, I’m sure most genres and predilections are covered, however the girls I know who make content aren’t doing anything particularly hardcore. The people I know who are utilising it mainly have careers within the industry anyway- several lap dancers and a high end escort, they use the site as an additional income stream which relates to the work they are already undertaking. They are very much in control of what they do and don’t produce and they make thousands from it. I’m an ex lap dancer myself and still have friends within the industry hence my ‘knowing a girl who made a fortune from it’.

Faez · 17/04/2020 14:55

Grim

PositiveVibez · 17/04/2020 14:49

The fact that this is feeding the patriarchy should be enough to stop women selling themselves. It makes me feel sad. As does this tweet

Julie Bindel - there-s-nothing-empowering-about-the-sex-work-on-onlyfans
n00bMaster69 · 17/04/2020 14:26

I’ve never seen anyone putting absurdly large objects into one or more orifices or anything involving shit or piss

I just want to add to my previous comment about this.
I've just searched Onlyfans and a few choice tags and exactly what I thought would appear did. Took me 5 seconds to find.

n00bMaster69 · 17/04/2020 14:04

I know a girl who created a platform similar to only fans and she has made millions from it

Everyone seems to know a girl who made a fortune from it...

I’ve never seen anyone putting absurdly large objects into one or more orifices or anything involving shit or piss

You think those images would be public? No, they're the private images men pay good money for.

QuentinWinters · 17/04/2020 13:30

My little internal bogosity meter is saying, "The closest she's been to 30,000 is walking past the billboard for the lottery."

Totally agree. If you watch "Hor Girls Wanted" the producers were paying a college student to be a referee to talk to interested girls and spin how much she earnt and how great the work was.

I suspect that's what this girl is doing.

It's no surprise to me that most of the commenters on twitter are men.

KatesMott · 17/04/2020 13:09

I know a girl who created a platform similar to only fans and she has made millions from it. She takes a percentage of earnings from all of the people who use the platform for their own images and videos, along with the subscription fees from those who watch the content. She still posts her own content too which is exactly the same as all other content I’ve seen on there- mostly nudes, some videos, including solo masturbation, and sex with her partner. I’ve never seen anyone putting absurdly large objects into one or more orifices or anything involving shit or piss 🤷🏼‍♀️
There’s a huge variety of content on there but it’s mostly mild. Quite a lot of girls already ‘instagram famous’ use it to boost their earnings and can make a lot doing very little off the back of their already established profiles. It wasn’t particularly common when I was younger and the content was more explicit then as it tended to be utilised by already established porn stars. If anything the more widespread popularity of such sites seems to have resulted in more people doing it but creating less explicit content.

Geepipe · 17/04/2020 12:58

Its not ironic at all. Im in a relationship aka a partnership. We make decisions together. If i want to make money in a different way to normal i need to discuss it with my partner the same way he is expected to tell me if he is planning an alternative means to make money.

FamilyOfAliens · 17/04/2020 12:57

If a woman wants to sell photos of her body more power to her. Im considering it if dp agrees.

“If DP agrees”? Oh the irony.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 17/04/2020 10:32

Geepipe You can't see a difference between selling naked photos of yourself online and drinking alcohol and having sex at university?

littlbrowndog · 17/04/2020 09:54

Yeah men won’t buy just pics of naked women.

They want something much more.

Which will be horrid

n00bMaster69 · 17/04/2020 09:43

If it was that easy to make that kind of money, she wouldn't be the only one doing it

Anyone who thinks those woman who make a fortune are only selling naked pics are deluded.
The women who make the most money sell images of themselves with absurdly large objects in them (including hands) usually more than one orifice at the same time and/ or there is piss or shit involved.

It's awful stuff that goes on, I really hate the whole " it's empowering" crap.

Who even wants empowerment? It's pretend power, those above you can take it away whenever they want, it's borrowed.