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Dr Adrian Harrop (a trans activist) just asked for screen shots of anti trans statements posted here at MN

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ForbiddenFromNaples · 16/04/2020 12:48

Posted his request about 5 minutes ago (or at least thats when I saw it) on twitter.

Im not even particularly anti trans, but when I see attempts to whip up mobs like that, I feel that hes making people anti trans.

Sort makes me want to resort to making insidious dog whistle anti trans rhetoric just to fuck with him.

Leaving his trans stance aside, going by the rest of his twitter offerings, hes definitely not the person I would want as a GP. Lacks decorum and gravitas.

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MindTheMinotaur · 17/04/2020 15:52

molesmokes the Church of Satan is surely a key demographic for any discussions around mainstream milk marketing. Smile

I understand that a key representation of Satan incorporates male and female aspects with breasts and a penis. You could certainly spiral off into some weird speculations around that...

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons · 17/04/2020 15:39

Thank you for wishywashysciencywanky archive what a prize potato he is.

missyB1 · 17/04/2020 14:45

I’m finding it almost impossible to believe this man went to medical school. Is he actually currently employed as a GP? 🤔

MoleSmokes · 17/04/2020 14:27

Nauticant's link to Dr Horrid talking anti-science on Twitter archived here in case you are blocked:

archive.is/Yskez

That person tweeting Church of Satan stuff at Arla . . . Grin

Ali Bee, who wrote the song with what PC Gul of Humberbeat Thought Police referred to as a "transphobic limerick" ( "lyric", PC Gul, the word is "lyric"!) wrote a song about a Doctor too . . .

twitter.com/OldWomanSinging/status/1250843092967702531

"Don't go to the doctor (dedicated to a certain doc on twitter)"

Don’t go to the doctor if he can’t tell your sex
He’ll give you the wrong medicine
And it might have negative effects
With side effects like pain or death or other nasty things
He’s not a proper doctor if to gender crap he clings

Oh doctor, oh doctor, you silly, silly man
You know that humans can’t change sex
While you insist they can
Why are you a misogynist? why are you such a fool?
How can you be a doctor, ignoring all you learned at school?

Don’t go to the doctor who thinks a penis can be female
And uses this offensive lie in doxing and in blackmail
Don’t go to a doctor who on twitter gets all shoutie
If a woman knows the difference in an innie and an outie

Don’t go to the doctor if your daughter likes to build
He’ll sterilise and fix her say she cannot be fulfilled
Unless she changes gender and is magically a boy
Then he can play with bricks and stuff and other manly toys

Don’t go to a doctor who thinks your male child
Must be a girl ‘cos he likes pink and must from manhood be exiled
He’ll want to chop his nads off and dose him up with pills
And encourage him to play the part (I think it gives him thrills)

All the education in the world can’t stop someone being foolish
And lying through his very teeth supporting something quite so ghoulish
He wants to silence women he wants to take our rights
He’ll dox you in a minute to his crazy acolytes

But women won’t be silenced you silly little man
See, we know where you came from and we can see your plan
Your mother is a woman, your father, he is male
Your claims are merely fantasy. Our reality’s not for sale.

Apollo440 · 17/04/2020 14:22

I think what showed them up is Arla asking for examples of transphobia and they totally failed to provide any (because they don't exist). It's a good defence for any company targetted in this way.

merrymouse · 17/04/2020 14:06

"Your company is no friend or ally of our community" says it all really.

Imagine having so much privilege that you believe that you are somehow ill treated because a company refuses to 'be an ally'.

His problem isn't that Arla have discriminitary practices - that they won't employ members of a particular group, that they pay a particular group less, that they exclude by not providing facilities - his complaint is that they refuse to take a side in a debate that has nothing to do with their business.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSeeingSouls · 17/04/2020 14:06

Sorry forgot to bold the top/quote.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSeeingSouls · 17/04/2020 14:06

The sheer maliciousness of responding to women saying "we would really rather not have unexpected penis in areas where we're naked and vulnerable" with "those disgusting, perverted women are obsessed with our genitals!" is so telling

Yes, there is something extremely sinister about men hearing us say "we don't want to see your penis" and yet they believe we do want it really. That mindset is all too familiar, sadly.

What's even more unpleasant and disturbing is that these men are so happy advertising that they have that they want it really, no means yes mindset so blatantly.

Callmejudith · 17/04/2020 14:06

Excellent response. I will be buying everything Arla I can get my hands on!

Winesalot · 17/04/2020 13:56

Thank you Arla!! Love Lurpak and have a fridge full of Skyr...

ScrimpshawTheSecond · 17/04/2020 13:53

'sciency' is about right, nauticant. 'Sciencish' might work, too.

The sheer maliciousness of responding to women saying "we would really rather not have unexpected penis in areas where we're naked and vulnerable" with "those disgusting, perverted women are obsessed with our genitals!" is so telling

Yep.

Polynerd · 17/04/2020 13:45

I want to go and buy more Arla produce now. Unfortunately I can't because MY FRIDGE IS ALREADY FULL OF IT.

nauticant · 17/04/2020 13:44

"We are hateful, unpleasant, and very unsavory, we demand you do as we say, you must not question anything."

It's not an appealing sales pitch.

Lordfrontpaw · 17/04/2020 13:41

They will get bored eventually. Must be nap time soon.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/04/2020 13:40

Also, there is a TRA spamming Arla's Twitter thread with links about how wonderful the Church of Satan is. Behold those PR skillz!

Lordfrontpaw · 17/04/2020 13:38

A doctor, huh...

truthisarevolutionaryact · 17/04/2020 13:34

it does seem that the narcisssistic aspects of trans activism seem to be going down with the general public like a cup of cold sick at the moment
This perfectly sums it up. It seems that there's been a massive wake up by the population generally about the more oppressive and intimidatory aspects of the ideology. As the mainstream press (excluding obv the Guardian) have increasingly publicised all the no platforming, threats and bullying that are issued against anyone who questions safeguarding, the grooming of children and the TWAW mantra people have become increasingly aware & horrified. Put that in the context of these awful times, there's a real shift in understanding who is really stunning and brave. Bullies and narcissists don't make the cut any more.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/04/2020 13:34

Wait, Twitter says they do Cravendale? As in cats with thumbs? They just get better and better.

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/04/2020 13:24

"My GP blocked me on Twitter" sounds like something lifted from a wacky comedy script.

nauticant · 17/04/2020 13:16

Here's Harrop tweeting sciency stuff presented through an ideological lens:

twitter.com/AdrianHarrop/status/1249252948498055168

It's just very peculiar indeed.

justanotherneighinparadise · 17/04/2020 13:15

@nauticant 😯

SarahInAccounts · 17/04/2020 13:06

Sad little man with mummy issues.

Datun · 17/04/2020 13:00

the first thing they were asked was what their 'gender assigned at birth' was. Everyone is interested in whether you're born male or female,

Interesting, but unsurprising, Pope. Got to establish the hierarchy before you engage, right?

nauticant · 17/04/2020 12:59

Obviously don't believe everything you read on twitter:

twitter.com/Teddy_de_Chypre/status/1251055080419319808

TheProdigalKittensReturn · 17/04/2020 12:55

What is this "our community" he speaks of? LGBT? Well, technically I belong to that group and I'm pro dairy farming collectives and anti Twitter bullies.