British teenager convicted of making up gang rape claims in Cyprus speaks about ordeal in her first TV interview tonight

Ulver like I said, there is more to this than meets the eye.

The British High Commission raised no objections to any of her treatment.

I get the feeling we are only hearing half the story.

Yes because it’s normal to imprison a rape victim, deny them access to a lawyer, force them to sign a statement in a foreign language and harangue them for hrs.
Do you live in the U.K. or somewhere else where this is routine?

Echo what Mutton said. Particularly the part about the doctor, the first doctor flagged that she had been assaulted.

The judge took the time to write a 70 page summary of judgement where he explains at length the reasoning behind the judgement.

By all accounts it's pretty damning. I'd be interested to read it.

I'm not sure the argument that the trial was biased seems unfair.

All evidence, testimonies and witnesses were approved by representatives of the British High Commission who were also present throughout the proceedings and they didn't raise an objection to anything.

The narrative that she was stitched up by a kangaroo court is unfair and smacks of racism to be honest, "of course those sneaky Greeks can't be trusted to give a Brit a fair trial can they eh?"

@Homestayer I truly suspect they don't have it and never will because it doesn't exist your friend is talking shit in your ear.
@findumdum1 I believe the video you saw exists and yes apparently it was planned there are witness statements in the interview who say they were discussing "fucking the Brit" very aggressively. It's horrific isn't it. The hero's welcome they got arriving home was sickening too I'd be so ashamed if any of my family were accused of gang rape

Hi all
I've been lurking on here for a while, but have decided to break cover as I've been getting quite worked up about this thread. Though the op (see I've picked up the lingo) has pretty much covered what I was going to say in her last post.
I also believe 'Emily' - absolutely. I always did, but even more so since watching the doc. I don't know how anyone who has seen the doc could not believe her, unless they were quite determined to think she was lying from the outset. And why would you be? Why on Earth would anyone think it was more likely that this young woman chose to have group sex with five virtual strangers (the DNA of 5 different men were found on her) than that she was raped by a group of vile men who had had been heard boasting about fucking the English girl in advance and were triumphantly celebrating and calling her a whore afterwards. Hardly the behaviour of innocent boys who had narrowly avoided a false rape charge. Also, the claim (made by the police and judge) that she 'cried rape' after finding out she was being filmed seems bizarre to me. Wouldn't you want to pretend it hadn't happened and hope no-one you knew got to see the footage, rather than drawing attention to it (as well as putting yourself through the added humiliation of an intimate exam and intrusive questioning)?
I was aware of the online video before, as it was mentioned many times in the comments section of the Daily Mail article (of course) about the doc, by people (let's assume men) claiming it was absolute proof she was lying, and that those of us not repulsive enough to have searched for it and watched it, don't know what we're talking about. They've sort of got us over a barrel with that one, because no decent person is going to want to watch it (watching the doc was hard enough). But, with my extremely limited knowledge of Porn Hub, I'm pretty sure it would not be beyond the wit of man (or spotty teenage boy) to fake such a video (I'm sure I've heard, for instance, that there are videos of celebs doing pretty gross things online - which are not actually them) especially as there was some real footage of consensual sex to work with (as admitted by the victim). This footage was shown to the judge during HER trial (the men were not tried) and I think played a large part in the verdict. Because, of course, if a young woman is willing to have sex with one man she barely knows she's clearly willing to have sex with five of them!
If there is real footage of consensual group sex surely she would know that and therefore why would she continue to 'lie'? Wouldn't she just think she was lucky not to have got a year in jail and try and get back to normal life?
As for the differing doctors' reports, I understood that the doctor who saw her first said her injuries were consistent with rape and she was extremely distressed, as was also reported by her friends and a young man who was staying in the same hotel.

Sorry for banging on a bit. But it's a subject I feel very strongly about. Thank you to the OP for raising the subject.

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Is it the same in Cyprus @Ulver?
I don’t know but if it was published in the U.K. or uploaded on U.K. platforms it might still apply.

Of course she's telling the truth. I hope you don't have daughters.

As I said I hope she is telling the truth and gets the chance to clear her name.

It's just... odd is all.

@Homestayer Are u for real. If the Cyprus courts already had the video they would have used it in their case against her for making it up.
There hasn't been a rape case yet so obviously she hasn't had the chance to use any video for her defence. I agree with @Tonz and @stumbledin. The thought that your friend holds the key to this whole case in a fuckin WhatsApp video is ludicrous. Billable much

Is it the same in Cyprus @Ulver?

I haven't watched the documentary yet. The one video I saw, on a porn site (and also on some mens rights incel site that linked from it), where you could enter her full name to pull any videos up and one, and only one came up, shows somebody having consensual sex, briefly, with one man while other men are surreptitiously filming her. The one man can see as he is facing the phone cameras that are filming them.

Everything I have seen and heard (never heard from her directly) is entirely consistent with her account. She had consensual (and pretty joyless) sex with one man, to keep him happy as he was pissed off with her for talking to other men (a situation I vividly remember from that age). It then appears that his mates burst in, either with or without his knowledge , but he certainly didn't seem to try and stop them in the clip I saw. This again seems entirely consistent to me with them then having forced group sex with her and inflicting various injuries, as you'd expect. So it seems very consistent to me that any footage (there were multiple boys filming in the clip I saw so could be more from different angles) that shows her "enthusiastically enjoying consensual sex" very probably were taken before she was raped, without consent, by different men, sustaining injuries as you'd expect around forced sex and becoming in pain. It also looks very much like it was a planned set up.

I find it hard to see how anyone can't see this as being entirely plausible and likely to have been what happened. Far more likely than a 19y old girl who isn't a porn actress, agreeing enthusiastically to rough sex in a claustrophobic small room with 20 odd Israeli boys that she barely knew, alongside a boy that she thought she was seeing.

Publishing secretly filmed sex tapes is illegal. It’s classed as revenge porn.

I have watched the one uploaded to pornhub which candidly showed enthusiastic sex between a man and woman being secretly filmed (I don't think that is a crime in Cyprus could be w.rong) but I have only read about the vid showing her telling the mob to get out.

Yet the 'tone ' set by these videos existing seems to be more evidence she's a whore! For me it's exactly the opposite.

I will
Also be boycotting Cyprus and Israel as holiday destinations.
I have relatives in Cyprus and went to my sister in laws wedding there.
But the place is seedy politically and used by Middle Eastern and Baltic criminal mafia for money laundering and worse.

What I found doubly disturbing was the amount of online trolls producing hundreds of comments an hr disparaging the victim, making slanderous claims about her, hundreds of comments an hr all over comments sections on mail online and many other news outlets.
There was a coordinated smear attack on her by multiple accounts. I have screen shots of the twitter storm against her.
It’s very creepy.

I have always believed her. Good for her to continue this campaign.

I suspect they already have it tonz

I will change my mind however if @Homestayer can get their friend to forward their WhatsApp video to Cyprus Court. Can't see that happening

@stumbledin I forgot about the gas pipe line. Even more reason to make the case disappear. I also don't believe a 19 year old girl would agree to group sex with 12 strangers it just wouldn't happen. In her interview she says she had a row with him because she was talking to other boys. He allowed this to happen to her for what? Teach her a lesson. The whole thing is horrifying. Totally agree on why would she fight to get the case open again if she thought there was any evidence against her. Most people believe her so wouldn't she leave it that way instead of risking being caught out. I would love to believe there isn't groups of men out there who gang rape girls but I know there is. She's telling the truth

Also she didn't have a trial did she. The poor thing was in the police station for hour after hour all alone in a traumatised state of mind where she was bullied to retract her statement. Her interview clearly states that she sent distressed messages to her mum and friends while she was there she knew something wasn't right. Her appearance in court was against her for making it up so even if she did have the video she hasn't had the trial to show it yet. I really hope for her sake and for every other woman who will go on holiday she gets justice. Her strength amazes me

Tourist destinations depend on tourism, publisizing some of the abuse holiday makers witness ot experience does them no favours

So why would they stand by it and even double down unless they know more than we do?

You also have to bare in mind the reputation of Brits abroad. My DS went on a lads holiday last year and witnessed a lad getting the shit kicked out of him by owners of a quadbike stall, nothing was done about it and the lad wouldn't press charges.

Young British people are assulted, raped, drugged, robbed, killed and die every year on holidays abroad and never see justice because 'Brits Abroad'.

This came out because another country was involved but I can guarantee you she is not the only poor young woman who went away for some holiday fun and came home traumatised and devestated.